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Old 18th Dec 2019, 10:01
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a quick Google suggests Sycamores were still at TH in '65/'66, so looks as if Herod just missed it.
Yep, The Sycamore had just been withdrawn when I started. I believe it was a quick change caused by several accidents to the old beast. My first rotary flight was 1st June '66, and I think it was one of the first courses on the Sioux. Sorry if we've caused thread drift.
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Brain failure ... again!

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Arrived at TH in April 64, no Sycamores and Sioux for basic training.
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Old 19th Dec 2019, 15:09
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C-J, I went to TH in May `64 ,lived in secret accommodation(Barthropp House), and did my basic helicopter training on a secret `stealth helicopter` with wooden rotor blades (not the Skeeter,but I did fly that once).There were no `see-thru` Sioux there at the time.Most of my flying was done in the dark or on foggy days to muffle the frantic noise and flaming exhaust as the `stealth `dayglo` paint was re-applied every few sorties,and we operated out of the `topless hangar` to avoid prying eyes..In Aug`64,I was then banished to an Island and even more remote accommodation,befitting my lowly airman status to fly a highly visible `big yellow` hecilopoter........I would, of course ,deny all this ,should I be impeached.......there is no-one under my desk.....
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Arrived at TH in April 64, no Sycamores and Sioux for basic training.
About the time there was a bad accident with a Sycamore where an instructor and student died during a vortex ring demonstration.

I arrived in June 1965 and the basic training was on Sycamores, the Sioux being used for instructor courses. At the end of my course there were a few wobblies with Sycamores so the decision was made to use the Sioux for basic training.

The Sycamores went to Northolt and a couple of years later I had a go in one with Digger Barrell. What I remember is my 3R ducking when we got going because I had forgotten how close the blades went past the roof.

The Sycamore was possibly the best trainer the RAF ever had. If you could fly a Sycamore you could fly ANYTHING!!!!
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Old 20th Dec 2019, 08:17
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Originally Posted by nipva View Post
Was it the trainer for fiture heavy bombers pilots (Vulcan, Victor, Valiant, Canberra...) or were they selected from the fast jet pipeline?
By the mid 60s, when I went through the system, streaming from BFTS was done as follows:
Fast jet (Lightning, Hunter and occasional Canberra) to AFTS at Valley primarily on the Gnat or the Hunter if you couldn't fit into a Gnat.
Heavies (V force, Maritime & Transport/AAR) to Oakington on the Varsity
Rotary to Shawbury on the Whirlwind? - not sure after so many years!
At the end of the 60s Fast Jet also included Harrier, Buccaneer and Jaguar.
I don't believe that Shawbury had choppers during the 1960's, I was at Shawbury during 1976 at a time when RAF Tern Hill was closing and RAF records tend to agree that it was open upon the Tern Hill closure that choppers moved in to Shawbury

https://raf.mod.uk/our-organisation/.../raf-shawbury/
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 10:15
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Sycamore and FED - I shall plead impending insanity and 84th birthday! I confused my initial TH sojourn (64) with my return in 68. Logbooks are a blessing. My initial encounter with the Sycamore was in Aden in mid 50s. Not ideal operating conditions - make that totally unsuitable!!
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 12:25
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This https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/161117 could be the Ternhill Sycamore fatality referred to above. March 1964 and seemed to have been a blade failure.
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Old 18th Apr 2020, 10:32
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Astro compass

Hi all. Found in my late fathers possessions an Astro compass mk2. Not sure how as he got it as he worked in Brize in TCW. I am trying to find some history of it’s use. It has some white pen under the bubble housing. WF380 TF/NU 21 2 69. So any history on that aircraft would be good and what the other letters and date mean. The compass itself is a MK2A ref 6B/399 serial no 657. Also white markings KHI-R-I0-63 not sure what these mean. Would like to try and trace its origins. Any advice for further research would be much appreciated.
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Old 7th Sep 2022, 12:36
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Just to advise you all that one of the last surviving Varsities, WH945 at St. Mawgan, is under threat as the Cornwall Aviation Heritage Centre is being evicted from its present site by Cornwall Council, who think we can just pick up all our aircraft and move them elsewhere.
More details and a petition here: https://www.change.org/p/save-cornwa...m_medium=email
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I think you might mean WJ945. (WH945 was a Canberra).
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Originally Posted by Ka-2b Pilot View Post
Just to advise you all that one of the last surviving Varsities, WH945 at St. Mawgan, is under threat as the Cornwall Aviation Heritage Centre is being evicted from its present site by Cornwall Council, who think we can just pick up all our aircraft and move them elsewhere.
More details and a petition here: https://www.change.org/p/save-cornwa...m_medium=email
I thought the CAHC lease had come to an end? If correct, then it's not correct to say that the Museum is being evicted. Aside from WJ945 at Newquay (the former G-BEDV), there are six other complete Varsities extant:

WF369 – Newark Air Museum
WF372 – Brooklands Museum
WF382 - stored for Allied Museum, Berlin
WL626 – East Midlands Airport Aeropark
WL679 – RAF Museum Cosford
82001 – Swedish Air Force Museum, Linköping
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Discussion on Cornwall Aviation Heritage Centre closure here.
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