Lots of BAE 146 in a boneyard - shocking
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Lots of BAE 146 in a boneyard - shocking
Found lots of BAE 146 in Pinal Airpark (USA) boneyard.
shocking to see really any aircraft laid up.
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=32.50....7&r=0&src=msa
more details of Pinal Airpark :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinal_Airpark
shocking to see really any aircraft laid up.
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=32.50....7&r=0&src=msa
more details of Pinal Airpark :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinal_Airpark
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Those are ex Mesaba machines either RJ85s or 146s which were operated for Northwest Airlink.
Mesaba once had a fleet of 36, being the world's biggest operators of the generic type. Many of their fleet have found new homes and no doubt those shown will - if they haven't already.
Mass parkings of 146s have happened in the US before. Many more were parked up when American took over Air Cal and US Air sold off the ex PSA 146s.
Mesaba once had a fleet of 36, being the world's biggest operators of the generic type. Many of their fleet have found new homes and no doubt those shown will - if they haven't already.
Mass parkings of 146s have happened in the US before. Many more were parked up when American took over Air Cal and US Air sold off the ex PSA 146s.
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That's nothing. Go inside the building and look at the exhibits in the museum. There's a picture where all you can see are B17 tails 
I counted over 50 B52s when I visited.
I counted over 50 B52s when I visited.
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And in fact if you have a look here:
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.40....5&r=0&src=msl
You will see, probably some of the same aircraft, parked up at Norwich Airport awaiting their turn to be put back into service.
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.40....5&r=0&src=msl
You will see, probably some of the same aircraft, parked up at Norwich Airport awaiting their turn to be put back into service.
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Vick Van Guard, I just find it shocking to see aircraft not being used and their future unknown.
It would be nice to see these aircraft back in service, which I have since learned that alot of these aircraft are.
Do we have any locations in the UK where we moth ball aircraft or do we just break them up before giving other operators a chance to buy / use them ?
It would be nice to see these aircraft back in service, which I have since learned that alot of these aircraft are.
Do we have any locations in the UK where we moth ball aircraft or do we just break them up before giving other operators a chance to buy / use them ?
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Originally Posted by a..h
I counted over 50 B52s when I visited.
http://www.dot.state.az.us/aviation/...azairports.gif
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There's an organisation headquarted in the county where you are, whose job it is to find work for RJ's, and other BAE pax aircraft.
I would post a link, but it would probably be deleted. There used to be an airfield there, where they built the Trident and the 146. I'm sure you can work out the rest!
There's an organisation headquarted in the county where you are, whose job it is to find work for RJ's, and other BAE pax aircraft.
I would post a link, but it would probably be deleted. There used to be an airfield there, where they built the Trident and the 146. I'm sure you can work out the rest!
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Lets face facts here.
146's were not the cheapest of airplanes to operate (on a per seat/mile basis) and, let us not forget...contaminated cabin air is not exactly unknown on the type, either, so I would expect most will be scrapped, rather sooner than later.
146's were not the cheapest of airplanes to operate (on a per seat/mile basis) and, let us not forget...contaminated cabin air is not exactly unknown on the type, either, so I would expect most will be scrapped, rather sooner than later.
so I would expect most will be scrapped, rather sooner than later.
I just find it shocking to see aircraft not being used and their future unknown.
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The 146 is uneconomic for most operators who are not subsidised in one way or another.
The aircraft flies below RVSM airspace unless it has all the post delivery mods done, is slower than most other jets, hence flight times rack up maintenance costs, and the 4 engines and associated maintenance programmes are exorbitantly expensive.
The Fokker 100 parked beside the jets at Norwich is a far better deal for a similar seating capacity.
The aircraft flies below RVSM airspace unless it has all the post delivery mods done, is slower than most other jets, hence flight times rack up maintenance costs, and the 4 engines and associated maintenance programmes are exorbitantly expensive.
The Fokker 100 parked beside the jets at Norwich is a far better deal for a similar seating capacity.
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Lets face facts here.
146's were not the cheapest of airplanes to operate (on a per seat/mile basis) and, let us not forget...contaminated cabin air is not exactly unknown on the type, either, so I would expect most will be scrapped, rather sooner than later.
146's were not the cheapest of airplanes to operate (on a per seat/mile basis) and, let us not forget...contaminated cabin air is not exactly unknown on the type, either, so I would expect most will be scrapped, rather sooner than later.
Whilst I agree they are not the cheapest aircraft to operate, the low acquisition costs, particularly for the 146 goes a long way to offset this.
The Fokker 100 parked beside the jets at Norwich is a far better deal for a similar seating capacity.
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Thanks PT. I had wondered about that
I'm surprised that anything would be mothballed in England though. I would have figured it was so damp that you'd have to use it or lose it within a fairly short time. ...not that sitting baking in the 110 degree desert seems any easier on the equipment mind.
I'm surprised that anything would be mothballed in England though. I would have figured it was so damp that you'd have to use it or lose it within a fairly short time. ...not that sitting baking in the 110 degree desert seems any easier on the equipment mind.
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God I miss the 146.
Quiet on the outside and noisy as hell on the inside. Sounded to me like a british submarine or something. Aaaahhhhggaa! noises going off right under the pax feet. Tube/subway noises every time the flaps were retracted. And what a joy to fly. Big picture windows, comfortable, quiet, and for pilots, it was virtually impossible to make a bad landing (Unless you were really bad, or you didn't let the tinker-toy noise gear down gently. Even then it sounded like a load of dishes hitting the floor.) And then there was the sagging floor in the galley! Felt like you were on a trampoline! Short legs, pretty girls... low altitude scenery (because the ALF 502 and 503 engines couldn't go over .72 mach without coming apart.... so ATC made you ripp accross the mountains at FL210.....
These were my fond memories of the early -100 series. It just didn't get any better than this.
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Quiet on the outside and noisy as hell on the inside. Sounded to me like a british submarine or something. Aaaahhhhggaa! noises going off right under the pax feet. Tube/subway noises every time the flaps were retracted. And what a joy to fly. Big picture windows, comfortable, quiet, and for pilots, it was virtually impossible to make a bad landing (Unless you were really bad, or you didn't let the tinker-toy noise gear down gently. Even then it sounded like a load of dishes hitting the floor.) And then there was the sagging floor in the galley! Felt like you were on a trampoline! Short legs, pretty girls... low altitude scenery (because the ALF 502 and 503 engines couldn't go over .72 mach without coming apart.... so ATC made you ripp accross the mountains at FL210.....
These were my fond memories of the early -100 series. It just didn't get any better than this.
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