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Old 28th Jan 2008, 21:07
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Business Air used to fly Belfast-Manchester with the saab 340, although it didn't last long from what I read. G-GNTZ is the registration on the photo I have, mind you I think I saw that same reg on a Logonair saab 340 recently. Thieir flight numbers started with II and looking back in the timetables I have they had about 4 a day on this route

Another one from years back was Air Belfast who used to have a 1-11 flying from Belfast to London Stansted in about the same period. Didn't last long either. Their flight numbers started with 7L

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Old 28th Jan 2008, 21:15
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G-GNTZ I seem to recall adorned a Business Air 146 that flew FRA-LCY - "Bank Shuttle" I think they called it.
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Old 28th Jan 2008, 21:22
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G-GNTZ

G-GNTZ is a BAe 146 ex BA (now Flybe) Going by Airliners.net Photos

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Old 28th Jan 2008, 22:13
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I think you are spot on.
Air Ecosee was a customer of the dept. I worked for and Colin Pollard was who I interfaced with.
If I recall correctly the brothers were both flying for BA at the time ( Tristars?) which caused a little interesting situation.
They had offices on the othe side of ABZ apt next to Bcal helis.
I had a trip with Colin to WIC and after lunch rejoined the Bandit on its way back to ABZ.
They had a service to MAN which was popular with the boys from the rigs.
The lads preferred to be on their way ( to hell with the cost) rather than find themselves legless in the bar after 2/3 weeks on the wagon.

A Google of "Colin Pollard" Gill has a little info but "Colin Pollard" airline gives more recent info.

""We are very happy to add EUROCONTROL to our growing client portfolio," says WSI Aviation Account Manager, Colin Pollard. " 20/01/2006
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Old 29th Jan 2008, 18:13
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origins.

Going back to the origins of this thread a Dundee farmer wanted to start a local airline to tap into the blossoming Scottish oil exploration business. R C had been operating Eastern Seaboard Air Sevices with an Aztec and was appointed Ops Director of the new McDonald Aviation based in Dundee (grass only then) and I became CP. The newly acquired Aztec was supplemented by the purchase of a fixed-gear Heron G-ANNO (which type I had time on) which was purchased from Fairflight, Biggin Hill where the higher echelons consisted of Fred Mulligan (Engineering and Boss) son Reg and Gordon Burdess (I think - 30 plus years ago!) both BA pilots. Paul Mulligan entered the picture later.
The new company commenced operations under Fairflight's AOC until it got its own and as a result had a Fairflight pilot "supervising" ; the first a recent ex-Hamster without I believe any Heron time! A certain amount of sniffing around for opportunities naturally occurred, as a result of which Fairflight moved into the oil scene based in ABZ. Paul entered the scene and the rest as they say......................
McDonald ended up with A R (later Britannia) G H (later SIA) (R going on to BCal and I to Dan) up front and G W (presently King of Excel I believe) then Colin Pollard (presently in the sandpit). Munim Choucha from Fairflight the Engneer (sadly RIP).
2 DC 3's (G-AMPO and G-AMRA) were bought with expansion in mind - one pilot became type-rated just as the owner-farmer decided to sell them on - and when his brother lost a huge amount of money selling cattle in the States he downsized to the Aztec and we all bailed out to the airlines.
The new guy piled a full pax load in a loaner Aztec into the hills at TLA on one engine and the company then folded.
In a different life (with Dan) on the 748 at ABZ I met up with Ian Woodley who was the Cargo Manager then. He moved onwards and upwards to the greater things mentioned in earlier posts.
Sumburgh, Alidair, Edinburgh Flying Servces - John Turnbull and his Aztec antics! Those were the days!
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Old 29th Jan 2008, 18:56
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>LL even meant Langford Lodge..also from it's Danair days!

(post 10)

I bet it was a greaser.

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Old 13th Jan 2009, 11:46
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Ecosse 330 flew east mids- edn - abz(were the crew day stopped)wick,(second crew) in the a.m and the reverse inthe evening in 1985/6;all the rest bis air ,perigrine. aberdeen airways. highland express,bmi baby,is a bit confusing.now!! something to check out over the dark nights ;abz had a good buzz to it then and the airport imformation girls were imfamous.ecosse also had a route bhx- dublin,and i remember a post run bfs -lut,last of the fun jobs? or may be it was bhx- crk, 23 years ago!!!BHX too ? may have even been charters

just read
Saliors, post ,aztec days in scotland were something else .did john turnbull, meet his end in a landrover tree accident,what happened to arthur ramsden of npd at paull/humberside,wish i had a tardis if only to go back and have a look.;although it did nt seem so at the time,when those janitol(spelling?petrol fueled jobs left nose) heaters [email protected],over the north sea ;some of my best years,

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Old 13th Jan 2009, 13:40
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I remember "Brown Air" G159s out of Leeds Also watched the vid FRA-LCY with the 146, with the FDC wearinf earpiece and lightweight boom headsets, when I got a j/s in that a/c we wore ear defending cans and a huge mic

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Old 13th Jan 2009, 14:37
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brown air

opperated some of the old dans city link, after metropolitan.with shorts 330/ or 360 at the start.lots of names from there,
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 19:03
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100 above malinair

malinair ,glasgow lawyer frank cannon,and others,a fronting by dunncan mac intosh,what a man,long gone but always remembered,think they also went somewhere in the republic, hence the name,and the need for the 228, fast and short field,

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Old 13th Jan 2009, 20:46
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I remember Air Ecosse with some affection from my time at EGPF....indeed, my last performance as an approach controller was to give an SRA to a "Hairy Socks" Bandeirante.

At one time I believe their were more than 20 E110s on the UK register. One night at Glasgow we managed to attract 15 of them, most of which seemed to be mail flights. A resident of Bearsden phoned up to complain that we seemed to be doing training in the middle of the night because he thought he`d seen the same aircraft pass over his house repeatedly.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 21:12
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Hello Sailor......
My hazy memory recalls an ex Fish Head CP at McDonald Aviation in Dundee when I took Heron GANNO up there from Biggin. Now what would be his name...Roger something ? Colbrook ?
Also another partner/pilot, ex Crab I think.
I don't recall the Hamster. I do remember some fun and games with the Heron on the grass in the Scottish weather though, also some antics in a Dundee hotel. A certain amount of alcohol may have been involved.
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Old 14th Jan 2009, 11:11
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I have two questions about Air Ecosse I wonder if someone could answer for me?

1. When and where to was the first Air Ecosse scheduled flight out of
Glasgow?

2. Did they go into some kind of receivership in the early eighties and were
then revived to carry on?

Thanks
Keith
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Old 14th Jan 2009, 12:13
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KeMac,

Why not ask the man himself - I'm sure he'd be happy to help!
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I went to see him at ABZ in 1981 (and...nooo...I didn't get to see the boardroom!)

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Old 14th Jan 2009, 13:09
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Many thanks for the link - I will drop him a line

Regards
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Old 14th Jan 2009, 13:45
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There was another thread about Business Air not so long ago.

http://www.pprune.org/where-they-now...iness-air.html
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Old 14th Jan 2009, 20:00
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dave smiley,mark levy,dave kirk,ian berry,mrs(shelia) goodwin,cant remember her madien name,john frazer,
assistants maggy bruce , ray connelly ;any bells or different time;assuming those days were real.!!. asgaurd,.!!.norse myth?

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Old 14th Jan 2009, 21:17
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Much2much...a lot of bells (C Thorburn, if memory serves)

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Old 26th Jan 2009, 17:43
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would that be the same roger colbrook who i think went ;b cal,eva .amm and then ??;/?
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Old 27th Jan 2009, 15:07
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Does anyone recall a pilot Ian Ray who I think used to fly with Air Ecosse or Hairy Chaos as I remember some folks would refer to them. The BanAids looked great in the Air Ecosse colours does anyone remember the main spar used to run through the passenger cabin midships and passengers often tripped over it?

Anyone recall a Twotter in green and white with the reg G-STUD?
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