Any idea what this is?
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BTW is that a German Hasselblad camera being used by the shady character in the middle of the group?
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Possibly Mel. Is there another photo on the net?
The Airspeed A.S.6 Envoy's had these engines fitted:
Wolseley AR.9 radial, , Armstrong Siddeley Lynx IVC radial or Cheetah IX radial, Wright Whirlwind R.760 and Walter Castor II radials.
Also some had Scorpio I and Aries III engines. Were these also radials?
Cant find any information on those two so I'm doing some wild guessing that if they were inverted fours then the standard retracts would have been impossible to fit. (plus the fact that the craft would probably be way under powered)
Any confirmation on that uniform yet?
The Airspeed A.S.6 Envoy's had these engines fitted:
Wolseley AR.9 radial, , Armstrong Siddeley Lynx IVC radial or Cheetah IX radial, Wright Whirlwind R.760 and Walter Castor II radials.
Also some had Scorpio I and Aries III engines. Were these also radials?
Cant find any information on those two so I'm doing some wild guessing that if they were inverted fours then the standard retracts would have been impossible to fit. (plus the fact that the craft would probably be way under powered)
Any confirmation on that uniform yet?
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A few more Cruiser photographs here.
http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/airfields/net.html
According to H.A.Taylor in his book Airspeed Aircraft since 1931 by Putnam the Wolsley Aries III was a nine cylinder radial engine and the Scorpio II was also a radial engine.
http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/airfields/net.html
According to H.A.Taylor in his book Airspeed Aircraft since 1931 by Putnam the Wolsley Aries III was a nine cylinder radial engine and the Scorpio II was also a radial engine.
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On the Ramsgate photo, notice the gravel guard (fender) attached to the undercarriage strut. It is visible in the Spartan Cruiser II photo below.
Also on the Ramsgate photo, a propeller blade is visible between the nacelle and the exhaust manifold. The chaps uniform looks like 1930s RAF
issue, but I am no expert. The man with the camera could be holding a Leica, but it looks more like an American built Argus A 35, which was produced in the late 1930s, but again, I am no expert.
Also on the Ramsgate photo, a propeller blade is visible between the nacelle and the exhaust manifold. The chaps uniform looks like 1930s RAF
issue, but I am no expert. The man with the camera could be holding a Leica, but it looks more like an American built Argus A 35, which was produced in the late 1930s, but again, I am no expert.
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Thanks for the link. After visiting http://daveg4otu.tripod.com/iowweb/sim.html
I saw the Spartan Cruiser Mk2 YI-AAA which clearly shows the intake tubes bending forward as in the Ramsgate photo.
I also see that the RAF had one, but the site has no information on it.
I'm backing Mels and evansb choice and voting for the Spartan M2 on this.
I saw the Spartan Cruiser Mk2 YI-AAA which clearly shows the intake tubes bending forward as in the Ramsgate photo.
I also see that the RAF had one, but the site has no information on it.
I'm backing Mels and evansb choice and voting for the Spartan M2 on this.
Thanks everyone
I think we've got it. In the same series of great photographs at http://www.aviationarchives.info/sea...extSearch=X2RT, one of the pictures shows a Spartan Cruiser (G-ACGM?). I hadn't realized that the Cruiser was such a large aircraft.
Akubra, I noticed that the uniform shows up much darker than you would expect for an RAF uniform and the shirt is white, so I assumed it was probably a civilian uniform, patterned on the RAF one.
Akubra, I noticed that the uniform shows up much darker than you would expect for an RAF uniform and the shirt is white, so I assumed it was probably a civilian uniform, patterned on the RAF one.
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Here is another photograph of a Spartan Cruiser
Whilst this aircraft, in particular, has fairings around the main wheels I think you will agree other points tend to confirm the aircraft in question was a Spartan Cruiser such as the "brackets" inboard of the engine close to the leading edge of the wing also the forward facing air intake and the exhaust pipe running down the centre line of the engine.
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Whilst this aircraft, in particular, has fairings around the main wheels I think you will agree other points tend to confirm the aircraft in question was a Spartan Cruiser such as the "brackets" inboard of the engine close to the leading edge of the wing also the forward facing air intake and the exhaust pipe running down the centre line of the engine.
Mel
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Mel,
That does clinch it. I had noticed the "brackets" on the Ramsgate photo and was trying to find another view of the wing. I wonder what they were for? They look very "draggy" to me.
That does clinch it. I had noticed the "brackets" on the Ramsgate photo and was trying to find another view of the wing. I wonder what they were for? They look very "draggy" to me.
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>The man with the camera could be holding a Leica, but it looks more like an >American built Argus A 35, which was produced in the late 1930s, but >again, I am no expert.
Not either, I think. Looks too large, and seems to have a rectangular lens board. Used at eye-level, so unlikely to be one of the early SLRs (? Korelle). As a SWAG, perhaps Plaubel Makina, which was about the right size (6 x 9 cm), and came with an f/2.9 lens IIRC, which would be about the right size for that large circular object. Had wire-frame finder, which would disappear in this pic.
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>The man with the camera could be holding a Leica, but it looks more like an >American built Argus A 35, which was produced in the late 1930s, but >again, I am no expert.
Not either, I think. Looks too large, and seems to have a rectangular lens board. Used at eye-level, so unlikely to be one of the early SLRs (? Korelle). As a SWAG, perhaps Plaubel Makina, which was about the right size (6 x 9 cm), and came with an f/2.9 lens IIRC, which would be about the right size for that large circular object. Had wire-frame finder, which would disappear in this pic.
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I am slightly alarmed at the sudden turn of events when Whiskey November put his views on "stealing" pics from the site he 'represents' and then berates one of our best contributors.
If we take the view that every picture of every cockpit/flight deck, airport/aerodrome, aircraft and hangars etc., that appear on this forum is 'stolen' then we have a real problem don't we. But do we? The short answer is NO we don't.
We respect copyright and we respect the guys who take some brilliant pictures that appear on PPRuNe and we are grateful. Mel has contributed to this particular forum with a genuine interest in it's title and I have seen nothing that I would have to moderate out.
Having said that, WN, should know that there are no particular rules we follow on this forum only those PPRuNe have and we mods use. I am, therefore, closing this thread and remove some references to 'that' so that Mel can freely start another.
Mel, feel free to do as I suggest. You have nothing to apologise for and we look forward to your future efforts to entertain us.
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If we take the view that every picture of every cockpit/flight deck, airport/aerodrome, aircraft and hangars etc., that appear on this forum is 'stolen' then we have a real problem don't we. But do we? The short answer is NO we don't.
We respect copyright and we respect the guys who take some brilliant pictures that appear on PPRuNe and we are grateful. Mel has contributed to this particular forum with a genuine interest in it's title and I have seen nothing that I would have to moderate out.
Having said that, WN, should know that there are no particular rules we follow on this forum only those PPRuNe have and we mods use. I am, therefore, closing this thread and remove some references to 'that' so that Mel can freely start another.
Mel, feel free to do as I suggest. You have nothing to apologise for and we look forward to your future efforts to entertain us.
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