Jetliner upper berths
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Jetliner upper berths
People have claimed that sleeping berths vanished with propliners because jetliners were too fast to need them. However, see Panagra DC-8:
http://dc8cockpit.catisp.com/panagra.htm
So, here you are. A jetliner with upper sleeping berths!
How do the Panagra upper berths look like when in use? And how do they feel like?
Do any other airlines have upper berths on DC-8 or 707 services?
http://dc8cockpit.catisp.com/panagra.htm
So, here you are. A jetliner with upper sleeping berths!
How do the Panagra upper berths look like when in use? And how do they feel like?
Do any other airlines have upper berths on DC-8 or 707 services?
I hadn't heard of these before.
And the more I look at the picture ..... firstly the length of the berth looks too short to be usable. And secondly, if you extend the geometry and imagine the two berths down in the horizontal position there doesn't seem to be the space left between them to put the ladder up for access (bearing in mind that pax are not as agile as freighter crews going up a rope ladder! ).
Lastly, what would happen if the aircraft got into turbulence ? An aircraft is not like a train (where this concept was standard) and will adopt significant bank angles that pax have to be restrained against.
And the more I look at the picture ..... firstly the length of the berth looks too short to be usable. And secondly, if you extend the geometry and imagine the two berths down in the horizontal position there doesn't seem to be the space left between them to put the ladder up for access (bearing in mind that pax are not as agile as freighter crews going up a rope ladder! ).
Lastly, what would happen if the aircraft got into turbulence ? An aircraft is not like a train (where this concept was standard) and will adopt significant bank angles that pax have to be restrained against.
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"An aircraft is not like a train and will adopt significant bank angles that pax have to be restrained against."
I was always taught to fly an aircraft in balance. Has all this changed then?
WHBM Just being pedantic. I know exactly what you mean having experienced CAT myself.
I was always taught to fly an aircraft in balance. Has all this changed then?
WHBM Just being pedantic. I know exactly what you mean having experienced CAT myself.
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Look at the original Douglas Sleeper Transport for comparison:
http://www.airportjournals.com/Photo.../0512008_5.jpg
Cannot see a ladder. And DST does not fly above weather!
http://www.airportjournals.com/Photo.../0512008_5.jpg
Cannot see a ladder. And DST does not fly above weather!
Philippine AL B747-200's had 14 beds upstairs when intro'd in 1979,
so 14 of the 24 FCL pax slept thru' the Karachi stopovers Europe-Manila,
(and Manila-USA). Really was the only way to fly back then. 'ZG
so 14 of the 24 FCL pax slept thru' the Karachi stopovers Europe-Manila,
(and Manila-USA). Really was the only way to fly back then. 'ZG
