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Old 30th May 2007, 19:09
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Yes the protype Me262 (designated V1) did have a tailwheel. Indeed it also had a 730HP Jumo 210G piston engine in the nose. Which saved it one day when the two jets quit. Later it looked like pic 2 and 3. I talked to Galland about it circa 1972 but he did not mention stamping on the brakes to get the tail up - but then he may not have thought it worth mentioning. He did say that if they had enough of them earlier on it might have allowed them to win in the air - but Hitler was hell bent on bombers not fighters.


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I recall reading somewhere that with a tailwheel undercarriage the wings tended to block the airflow to the elevators during the takeoff roll. Which would correspond with the story about using the brakes to lift the tail.
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I supposed that's a possibility - but I can think of other low-wing taildraggers with a high-set stab, and don't know of them having a similar problem.
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barit1: I think the suggestion is that a taildragging jet aircraft does not have a prop slipstream to act on the tail surfaces.

The Supermarine Attacker is the only other jet taildragger that comes to mind, but I do not recall any stories about it having problems on takeoff.
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The Supermarine Attacker is the only other jet taildragger that comes to mind, but I do not recall any stories about it having problems on takeoff.

There were a couple of others. The initial production YAK 15 was a taildragger as was the Ambrosini Sagittario.
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Old 31st May 2007, 23:24
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Me-262

G'day Chaps

Other tail dragging fire breathers include:

Heinke HE 178

Caproni-Campini N.I

D.A.P. (A93) Pika

Handley Page H.P.88

Miles Sparrowjet

Leduc 021

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And an early design for an airliner with 4 Nene engines in pairs- I give you the Avro Tudor 8:

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Galland made reference to stamping on the brakes to lift the tail when writing about his first flight in the Me 262 in "The First and the Last".

Cajus Bekker (probably taking it from Galland's book) also refers to the practice in "The Luftwaffe War Diaries".
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