BOAC Handley Page Hermes to Lagos trip report 1951
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BOAC Handley Page Hermes to Lagos trip report 1951
Just to say I found this on the web :
http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/...ria-diary.html
interesting little read
http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/...ria-diary.html
interesting little read
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Truly a bygone age. I think the lady's aeroplane was 'Horus', not 'Hours', but it must have seemed like that in a piston-engined airliner at medium level.
Wonderful. Thank you for finding this.
Wonderful. Thank you for finding this.
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OK, I'm guessing...
Humber Hawk, Morris 8, Ford Prefect and Hillman Minx.
Any improvement on that?
Edit - definitely unsure about the Hillman Minx - Peugeot maybe?
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A very interesting article. The Hermes Horus was written off after a forced landing in Mauritania 10 months later. What a shame she didn't get a photo of it, they are very hard to come by.
Is that a Jowet Javalin turning in to the side steet?
Is that a Jowet Javalin turning in to the side steet?
I thought the most interesting part was:
Try that today.
SSK
I see a "What Car is This Thread" coming
I used to go to school in a bus like that, although in Berkshire, not Lagos.
An interesting BBC page with pictures about the desert crash here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/archaeo...escue_01.shtml
2:00 Boarded coach for Heath Row airport. Passed through customs and were on board B.O.A.C. Hermes “Hours” by 3:00
SSK
I see a "What Car is This Thread" coming
I used to go to school in a bus like that, although in Berkshire, not Lagos.
An interesting BBC page with pictures about the desert crash here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/archaeo...escue_01.shtml
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Background to accident here. http://aviation-safety.net/database/...0526-0&lang=en
Vauxhall Velox parked on the opposite side of the street - and an Austin Devon turning into a side street?
Possibly a Humber Super Snipe in the distance?
Possibly a Humber Super Snipe in the distance?
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Real blast from the past. Flew out to Lagos, on a regular basis, for school holidays on Argonauts, Stratocruisers and Britannia 102s. Had flown to/from Dar es Salaam previously on Hermes and Argonauts.
Would be nice to see some pics of Ikedja Airport in those days. Any out there?
FW
Would be nice to see some pics of Ikedja Airport in those days. Any out there?
FW
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Having seen what happened on a recent Heathrow thread I just knew that photo of the cars in the street would invite the old car-spotting crowd !
BTW the bus looks like an Albion Venturer (built in Glasgow).
I thought another interesting aspect of the article was the description of the meals along the way, notably the meal at the terminal in London before departure. What plain food out grandparents "enjoyed" at that time, and for the time it probably cost a bomb.
BTW the bus looks like an Albion Venturer (built in Glasgow).
I thought another interesting aspect of the article was the description of the meals along the way, notably the meal at the terminal in London before departure. What plain food out grandparents "enjoyed" at that time, and for the time it probably cost a bomb.
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Car Spotting
I agree with "The SSK" identification of cars and would add that the car turning left into the side street (or a an open garage door) is a Standard Vanguard.
It is also possible that the car behind the Hillman Minx Mark 4 is a Humber Super Snipe.
Buses never did anything for me so I'll go with the flow.
My first car was a Ford Prefect for which I paid the princely sum of £7/10, (Seven pounds and Ten Shillings) I made a fortune out of it from company mileage allowance and sold it to my brother for £5. Then went big time with a VW Beetle LHD and a sunroof at £110.
Meanwhile back in Lagos.......
It is also possible that the car behind the Hillman Minx Mark 4 is a Humber Super Snipe.
Buses never did anything for me so I'll go with the flow.
My first car was a Ford Prefect for which I paid the princely sum of £7/10, (Seven pounds and Ten Shillings) I made a fortune out of it from company mileage allowance and sold it to my brother for £5. Then went big time with a VW Beetle LHD and a sunroof at £110.
Meanwhile back in Lagos.......
OK - I'll concede the Standard Vanguard:
And I should have remembered the flutes along the side of a Vauxhall:
which distinguish it from the reasonably similar Minx:
All pretty horrible old cars, I have to say!
And I should have remembered the flutes along the side of a Vauxhall:
which distinguish it from the reasonably similar Minx:
All pretty horrible old cars, I have to say!
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Great, from Hermes to old cars..
Reading the trip report is interesting, as bonuses I can have glimpses to Humber Hawk, Hillman, Vauxhall Velox........
I hope I can read similar trip reports but in Asia settings. Kuala Lumpur ? Jakarta? Singapore? or Kota Kinabalu? with Douglas DC3, or Convair 440 Metropolitan or the famous Constellation...
Thanks for giving the link to the Nigeria 1951 trip.
I hope I can read similar trip reports but in Asia settings. Kuala Lumpur ? Jakarta? Singapore? or Kota Kinabalu? with Douglas DC3, or Convair 440 Metropolitan or the famous Constellation...
Thanks for giving the link to the Nigeria 1951 trip.
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I think the Ford in the middle of the road might be an Anglia. I had an early fifties Prefect and the lamps were in the wing, not on top.
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The first Mrs SSK had a father who was an inveterate buyer of old cars. Anything that had a price-tag of less than £50 and at least 3 months' MoT was irresistible to him, so he always had seven or eight more-or-less runners in front of the house (on the embankment just by the Boat Race finish - the neighbours must have loved him). So I have had the opportunity to drive, amongst others, a Hawk, a Morris 8 and a Ford like that one, although not nevessarily that model. Unmemorable driving experiences all, although I recall struggling with the column change on the Humber.
I thought another interesting aspect of the article was the description of the meals along the way, notably the meal at the terminal in London before departure. What plain food out grandparents "enjoyed" at that time, and for the time it probably cost a bomb.
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OK, dug out the timetable at last :
BA251 on Mon Wed Fri Sat
Handley Page Hermes
Times local
Heathrow 1445
Tripoli 2230/2345
Kano 0530/0645
Lagos 0925
4.5 hour turnround at Lagos
Lagos 1400
Kano 1645/1745
Tripoli 0130/0245
Heathrow 0900
The other three days of the week BA253 operated the same routing to Kano, giving a daily operation to that point, thence to Accra in Gold Coast (nowadays Ghana).
The writer's homeward trip routed from Tripoli via Malta and Rome. They appear to have overnighted and changed planes at Tripoli onto a BEA Vickers Viking which operated some regional routes based out of Malta to several places which seem decidedly un-BEA like nowadays.
BE805 on Mondays
Vickers Viking
Cairo 0730
Benghazi 1135/1215
Tripoli 1445/1530
Malta 1605/1635
Rome 1915
There was also a Savoia-Marchetti SM.95 still operating for the Egyptian independent carrier SAIDE on a similar routing through Tripoli. Now that would have been one for the enthusiasts to have a trip report about.
BA251 on Mon Wed Fri Sat
Handley Page Hermes
Times local
Heathrow 1445
Tripoli 2230/2345
Kano 0530/0645
Lagos 0925
4.5 hour turnround at Lagos
Lagos 1400
Kano 1645/1745
Tripoli 0130/0245
Heathrow 0900
The other three days of the week BA253 operated the same routing to Kano, giving a daily operation to that point, thence to Accra in Gold Coast (nowadays Ghana).
The writer's homeward trip routed from Tripoli via Malta and Rome. They appear to have overnighted and changed planes at Tripoli onto a BEA Vickers Viking which operated some regional routes based out of Malta to several places which seem decidedly un-BEA like nowadays.
BE805 on Mondays
Vickers Viking
Cairo 0730
Benghazi 1135/1215
Tripoli 1445/1530
Malta 1605/1635
Rome 1915
There was also a Savoia-Marchetti SM.95 still operating for the Egyptian independent carrier SAIDE on a similar routing through Tripoli. Now that would have been one for the enthusiasts to have a trip report about.
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Definitely not an Anglebox! Ford Anglias of that era had the well-known 'church door' grille:
Whereas the allegedly more luxurious Prefect had a rounded snout:
When the 100E Anglia came out, complete with all of 36 Bhp and 0-60 in 29.7 very noisy seconds of mechanical distress, the old-shape Anglia became the virtually identical Popular - which staggered on until 1959! Then the 105E Anglia came out - and the 100E became the Popular.
Whereas the allegedly more luxurious Prefect had a rounded snout:
When the 100E Anglia came out, complete with all of 36 Bhp and 0-60 in 29.7 very noisy seconds of mechanical distress, the old-shape Anglia became the virtually identical Popular - which staggered on until 1959! Then the 105E Anglia came out - and the 100E became the Popular.
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Pre-'48 Prefects still had the headlights in pods - it must be one of them.
While growing up in Africa in the 60's there were still a number of them about - known colloquially as "Hopalong Fords". The reason for the nickname became apparent the first time you followed one along an unmade dirt road.......
While growing up in Africa in the 60's there were still a number of them about - known colloquially as "Hopalong Fords". The reason for the nickname became apparent the first time you followed one along an unmade dirt road.......
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When did Castel Benito Airport become Castel Idris?
Obviously it became Tripoli International Airport after September 1, 1969.
They should have stuck with tradition and called it "Castel Gaddafi" or "Castel Muammar"
Does the ident beacon still read CB apparently it wasn't chaned to CI.
Obviously it became Tripoli International Airport after September 1, 1969.
They should have stuck with tradition and called it "Castel Gaddafi" or "Castel Muammar"
Does the ident beacon still read CB apparently it wasn't chaned to CI.
Plastic PPRuNer
Great story.
Me mum flew out to Lagos in '48 - but as best I remember it was in an Avro York and less luxurious.
All I know is that dad picked her up in an old jeep that leaked in the rain and she though ooh er - what 'ave I let meself in for!
Me mum flew out to Lagos in '48 - but as best I remember it was in an Avro York and less luxurious.
All I know is that dad picked her up in an old jeep that leaked in the rain and she though ooh er - what 'ave I let meself in for!