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What Cockpit? MK V

Old 27th Apr 2007, 18:53
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Some flight instruments indicate a fairly high performance aircraft. Is it a jet?

In hindsight, I must have mistaken the metric instrument calibrations to be in feet and miles-per-hour.

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Old 27th Apr 2007, 19:01
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Complete guess 'cos I can`t find any cockpit shots... or even remember the model name... Is it a PZL something ?

(I`m thinking of the one that looks a bit like a Shorts 330)
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Old 27th Apr 2007, 22:36
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Sorry for the delay.
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This aircraft was not a Jet powered aircraft.
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Not a PZL.
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Old 27th Apr 2007, 22:52
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I think this view may answer kitbag's question reference throttles.
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 07:00
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Mel said:

The subject aircraft did have German origins which was manufactured in a country that later became part of the Soviet Bloc as well as the country that this aircraft was produced.
Can we have that one in English

German involvement in the design? (East Germany?)

Made in a 'new' Soviet Bloc country? ( -"-)

...and the last bit just baffles me
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 07:49
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Can we have that one in English

German involvement in the design? (East Germany?)

Made in a 'new' Soviet Bloc country? ( -"-)

...and the last bit just baffles me


Was designed by Germany as she was prior to WWII and was built in a country that was annexed by Germany before 1939 that became a Communist country after WWII.

Hope that makes it clearer.
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 09:45
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Thanks, now I understand. Still dont know the answer though

Clues suggest:

Czechoslovakia or East Germany

Which in turn annexed parts of Hungary and Poland.

So one of four countries, twin piston with steering by mainwheel braking and a freewheeling nose-wheel. Avia (type unknown) perhaps?

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Old 28th Apr 2007, 11:29
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The German designer of the aircraft of origin was located in a part of Germany that became within East Germany at the end of WWII and during the war it was manufactured in Czechoslovakia and a second country of German occupation. However the aircraft shown in the photograph was a later version built in the second country.

It was a twin piston with steering by mainwheel braking but with a castering tail-wheel.

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Old 28th Apr 2007, 13:13
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Have you told them yet about a bit of one built in France being used on the recent museum rebuild?
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 15:07
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A name that repeats itself often on my research is 'Bloch'

Could this be an MB220?

The designer fits the clues even though he later became 'Dassault'.
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 15:32
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You mean the aircraft of a similar type number one used to rebuild a version of the aircraft built by the Czech manufacturer to bring it up to flying condition?
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This aircraft was built by France but not by Bloch, it is not the MB220.
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 16:24
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I don't think it is going to be up to flying condition.

Wasn't the French name the same as that a British aircraft built by Miles?
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I am only going what the photographer stated when posting his photograph. The French name was as you say the same as a Miles aircraft.

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Old 29th Apr 2007, 05:09
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The SNCAC NC.702 Martinet.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 08:08
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evansb has it . It is the The SNCAC NC.702 Martinet.

The SNCAC NC.702 Martinet has its origins on a German aircraft, Siebel 204, powered by twin Argus engines with two-bladed propellers, it accomplished its first flight in 1941, its principal role was aircrew training.
In order to preserve the capacity of the German aircraft industry for more essential productions, its manufacture was located in Czechoslovakia and Bourges in France, at the National Company of Aeronautical Engineerings of the Center. After WWII, production began again with the SNCAC. The first “French” specimen was indentified as the NC.700 Martinet equipped with a full nose, it was followed by the NC.701 with an entirely glazed nose. Major modification compared to Siebel being replacement of the Argus engines with Renault 12S-00 engines driving three-bladed propellers. although some did fly with the Argus engines.
The NC.702 version differs from the NC.701 by a modified cabin and a full nose.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 13:51
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Thanks Mel. Here is the next challenge.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 16:58
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The inflatable wing aircraft, produced by ML Aviation Ltd in the mid-1950s as the Utility. Three aircraft were built (XK776, XK781 and XK784) perhaps?
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 17:32
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Mel, sorry, it is not the ML Aviation Ltd. pneumatic wing aircraft pictured below. The challenge aircraft was, however, built in the 1950s.

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Old 29th Apr 2007, 18:02
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Thanks for that Bri. My response was based on the bathtub shape of the cockpit, but thinking about it logically one would hardly have required an accelerometer on the old "Flying Durex".
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 18:40
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Is this aircraft a Powered Glider?
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