Vulcan XH558, It Looks Like It Is Over.
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Vulcan XH558, It Looks Like It Is Over.
Well, it looks like it is all over for getting Vulcan XH558 back in the air.
I have just had a look at the web site and the news is not good, if one million pounds is not raised by the end of August then that's it.
It is a sad day for aviation preservation that the Vulcan will not fly again, it was the greatest airshow performer, it defended our country during the cold war, it flew the longest bombing mission ever when it bombed the Falklands and it is a big part of British Aviation Heritage but sadly it looks as if it will never fly again.
A lot of people have had a pop at the people who have tried to get the Vulcan back in the air saying they didn't handle it right, they did this wrong, they did that wrong, well, nobody is perfect and it seems that mistakes might have happened but in the end AT LEAST THESE PEOPLE TRIED and fair play to them for that, they tried to give us a chance to see one of the greatest British Aircraft back in the sky where it belongs, it is just so sad that all their effort seems to have come to nothing.
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I have just had a look at the web site and the news is not good, if one million pounds is not raised by the end of August then that's it.
It is a sad day for aviation preservation that the Vulcan will not fly again, it was the greatest airshow performer, it defended our country during the cold war, it flew the longest bombing mission ever when it bombed the Falklands and it is a big part of British Aviation Heritage but sadly it looks as if it will never fly again.
A lot of people have had a pop at the people who have tried to get the Vulcan back in the air saying they didn't handle it right, they did this wrong, they did that wrong, well, nobody is perfect and it seems that mistakes might have happened but in the end AT LEAST THESE PEOPLE TRIED and fair play to them for that, they tried to give us a chance to see one of the greatest British Aircraft back in the sky where it belongs, it is just so sad that all their effort seems to have come to nothing.
Peter.
Very sad that they cannot find a sponsor - but they would probably do better if they could offer a Vodafone, Coca Cola or other global brand a big logo on the tail in place of the RAF scheme!!
Trouble is today corporate Britain is inwilling to sponsor anything for its own sake - they want a tangible return and a Vulcan billboard (heaven forbid) would probably fit the bill!
Trouble is today corporate Britain is inwilling to sponsor anything for its own sake - they want a tangible return and a Vulcan billboard (heaven forbid) would probably fit the bill!
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Very sad that they cannot find a sponsor - but they would probably do better if they could offer a Vodafone, Coca Cola or other global brand a big logo on the tail in place of the RAF scheme!!
Trouble is today corporate Britain is inwilling to sponsor anything for its own sake - they want a tangible return and a Vulcan billboard (heaven forbid) would probably fit the bill!
Trouble is today corporate Britain is inwilling to sponsor anything for its own sake - they want a tangible return and a Vulcan billboard (heaven forbid) would probably fit the bill!
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Maybe somebody can clarify this... if certain RAF aircraft are preserved in flying order, such as the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, why isn't the Vulcan included in some sort of Cold War Memorial Flight? That way they could have RAF backing (and presumably some RAF funding).
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Firstly, the RAF has been cutting it's display budget for years and I cannot see any chance of the memorial flight being expanded.
My guess is that the machine would only be able to display for a limited number of hours each year and only at/over specified sites due noise and safety. A corporate will want their billboard to be available all year round and at many venues. For example, if a corporate sponsored the repair of 50 vintage cars (trying to find equivalent sum of money) then they can parade those cars at any racing ground in the country or any city square that they choose. XH558 cannot be made to do that.
Yes of course the machine has unique attractions but I cannot imagine a corporate even agreeing to see the folks for half an hour. There are so many offers for places to stick their names that they can pick and choose and would not choose one that has narrow appeal and narrow visibility. Lastly, in what ways does a Cold War bomber link with 21st century corporate values? (OK, enough jokes about Halliburton already)
It's just that there is nothing that a modern company want from a machine that is old and noisy (they will say) and can no longer do some of it's most startling things. It's speed and performance are limited and were only ever done at high level. If they cannot find a pure enthusiast multi-millionaire, then it is over. Since any pure enthusiast multi-millionaire would have already been part of the gang for years ... it is over.
My guess is that the machine would only be able to display for a limited number of hours each year and only at/over specified sites due noise and safety. A corporate will want their billboard to be available all year round and at many venues. For example, if a corporate sponsored the repair of 50 vintage cars (trying to find equivalent sum of money) then they can parade those cars at any racing ground in the country or any city square that they choose. XH558 cannot be made to do that.
Yes of course the machine has unique attractions but I cannot imagine a corporate even agreeing to see the folks for half an hour. There are so many offers for places to stick their names that they can pick and choose and would not choose one that has narrow appeal and narrow visibility. Lastly, in what ways does a Cold War bomber link with 21st century corporate values? (OK, enough jokes about Halliburton already)
It's just that there is nothing that a modern company want from a machine that is old and noisy (they will say) and can no longer do some of it's most startling things. It's speed and performance are limited and were only ever done at high level. If they cannot find a pure enthusiast multi-millionaire, then it is over. Since any pure enthusiast multi-millionaire would have already been part of the gang for years ... it is over.
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You are so right about the lottery money.
It needs someone Big, Corporate, Aviation, there is only one person
Its a shame Dicky Branston didn't get on board, it could have had a nice neat little Virgin logo on the nose and if he was putting the money in I am sure every aviation enthusiast would fly Virgin instead of his rival BA if they had to go somewhere.
So if you happen to be reading this Dicky, we need you
You are so right about the lottery money.
It needs someone Big, Corporate, Aviation, there is only one person
Its a shame Dicky Branston didn't get on board, it could have had a nice neat little Virgin logo on the nose and if he was putting the money in I am sure every aviation enthusiast would fly Virgin instead of his rival BA if they had to go somewhere.
So if you happen to be reading this Dicky, we need you
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A Virgin or Red Bull Vulcan?
I would rather see it grounded forever. There are some ways of getting the old girl airborne that I find unacceptable, and whilst I like the Sea Vixen, the colour scheme is a disgrace.
I would rather see it grounded forever. There are some ways of getting the old girl airborne that I find unacceptable, and whilst I like the Sea Vixen, the colour scheme is a disgrace.
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Not really relevant to the thread, but does anyone know if the Vulcan at Southend still does fast taxis?
I think it is so sad that such giants of our aviation history should be left to rot away. The Vulcan is such a magical machine and I'm sure that it has enough devotees that anyone willing to stump up some of the cash to alow her to fly again would see huge returns on that investment!
The other aircraft I would love to see flying over UK skies is the GE Lightning!
I think it is so sad that such giants of our aviation history should be left to rot away. The Vulcan is such a magical machine and I'm sure that it has enough devotees that anyone willing to stump up some of the cash to alow her to fly again would see huge returns on that investment!
The other aircraft I would love to see flying over UK skies is the GE Lightning!
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GE Lightning? ENGLISH Electric, not General Electric dear boy! 
Would be good though, wouldn't it... Vulcan and Lightning, but I fear 'tis but a dream...
Would be good though, wouldn't it... Vulcan and Lightning, but I fear 'tis but a dream...
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Dear All.
Please sign the form at the bottom of
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/hangar/...h558/xh558.htm
Your name will be sent to the Lottery Fund asking them to put more money in to the Vulcan
You never know, it might just help.
Peter.
Please sign the form at the bottom of
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/hangar/...h558/xh558.htm
Your name will be sent to the Lottery Fund asking them to put more money in to the Vulcan
You never know, it might just help.
Peter.
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Glad you have added your name , lets hope many more people do.
The Vulcan is just so near to being ready for its roll out and taking to the air again that it will be a crying shame if it doesn't
We need to see this again.
Glad you have added your name
, lets hope many more people do.The Vulcan is just so near to being ready for its roll out and taking to the air again that it will be a crying shame if it doesn't
We need to see this again.
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Tredders writes: Would be good though, wouldn't it... Vulcan and Lightning, but I fear 'tis but a dream...
Guess you'll have to transfer 558 to the RSA, where I understand MB-H is hoping to get four, yes four EE Lightnings flying at the Ysterplat show in September...dream on, don't cost nuthin!
cheers
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Guess you'll have to transfer 558 to the RSA, where I understand MB-H is hoping to get four, yes four EE Lightnings flying at the Ysterplat show in September...dream on, don't cost nuthin!
cheers
atb
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Sorry, of course I meant EE, think I was half asleep when I wrote that!
I have also added my name, can you imagine the crowd pull for any airshow that could boast a Lightning AND a Vulcan?
I have also added my name, can you imagine the crowd pull for any airshow that could boast a Lightning AND a Vulcan?
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BBC News this morning
It was geatured on the BBC news programme this morning, highlighting the need for £250,000 by the end of the month. Very sad, I hope that they get it.