What Cockpit? MK III
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Originally Posted by Philthy
Ok, I'll bite: it can only be the unique Chrislea Super Ace.
I especially like the glasses tray!
I especially like the glasses tray!
You got it in one you have control.
JDK
I knew it would not catch you guys out. Now doubt you were going to say it was the Chrislea CH.3 Super Ace 2
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Here is an earlier photo
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I'll get the rego etc when I get home, but in the meantime over to you JDK:-
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OK, let's try something a little different.
Some bits from a cockpit, assembled roughly into their original locations.
The type and pilot should be easy; and that'll give the serial; so extra points for the location of the bits today...
Some bits from a cockpit, assembled roughly into their original locations.
The type and pilot should be easy; and that'll give the serial; so extra points for the location of the bits today...
JDK,
I'll open the bidding for you: My guess is that is the wreckage of the Fokker that Manfred von Richthofen made his last flight in. Words carefully chosen not to suggest any bias to any particular theory on who got him!
I can't place the museum, but I know that 3 squadron AFC ( now RAAF ) were involved, and so I'll guess that the location is the Australian war memorial or museum in Canberra.
Incidentally, the AWM is an incredible place that I only regerttably managed about 15 minutes in, many years ago. Must go back.
Convoluted thinking or what?
BSD.
I'll open the bidding for you: My guess is that is the wreckage of the Fokker that Manfred von Richthofen made his last flight in. Words carefully chosen not to suggest any bias to any particular theory on who got him!
I can't place the museum, but I know that 3 squadron AFC ( now RAAF ) were involved, and so I'll guess that the location is the Australian war memorial or museum in Canberra.
Incidentally, the AWM is an incredible place that I only regerttably managed about 15 minutes in, many years ago. Must go back.
Convoluted thinking or what?
BSD.
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Very good BSD,
Didn't think it would last long, but that was swift.
Von R's Fokker Dr.1 'bits' - to say 'wreckage' is to give too much credit. The RAAF Museum at Point Cook, Victoria has a selection of pieces, but the photo is of the control column etc. at the Australian War Memorial.
Well worth more than 15 minutes, I'd agree, having spent three full days there recently, plus a day in the archives...
Your chance to aerobat...
Didn't think it would last long, but that was swift.
Von R's Fokker Dr.1 'bits' - to say 'wreckage' is to give too much credit. The RAAF Museum at Point Cook, Victoria has a selection of pieces, but the photo is of the control column etc. at the Australian War Memorial.
Well worth more than 15 minutes, I'd agree, having spent three full days there recently, plus a day in the archives...
Your chance to aerobat...
Yipppeeeee!
Mostly luck I'm afraid, plus the connection made with the patch of red fabric and if you will excuse this non-avaition link, the painting on the wall behind. I told you the thinking was convoluted!
The Australian AWM is indeed worth more than the measly amount of time I was able to give it. Their Lancaster ( G for George? ) alone, makes the trip worthwhile.
Once again I'll hand over control to anyone else to post on my behalf. My 12 year old has you'll all be pleased to hear, promised to teach me how to post.
I'm working up to one!
BSD.
Mostly luck I'm afraid, plus the connection made with the patch of red fabric and if you will excuse this non-avaition link, the painting on the wall behind. I told you the thinking was convoluted!
The Australian AWM is indeed worth more than the measly amount of time I was able to give it. Their Lancaster ( G for George? ) alone, makes the trip worthwhile.
Once again I'll hand over control to anyone else to post on my behalf. My 12 year old has you'll all be pleased to hear, promised to teach me how to post.
I'm working up to one!
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DH106,
It IS rather hard to make out. Sorry. The white framework is a shape to 'outline' the cockpit and so forth of the Dr-1.
The following picture by my good friend Mr Melvyn Hiscock of the French Memorial Flight's Dr-1 should help as to the 'what are we lookin at then'.
It IS rather hard to make out. Sorry. The white framework is a shape to 'outline' the cockpit and so forth of the Dr-1.
The following picture by my good friend Mr Melvyn Hiscock of the French Memorial Flight's Dr-1 should help as to the 'what are we lookin at then'.
JDK they were indeed beautiful airplanes to fly, rock solid. I have very little time on them, maybe 50 hours total as co-pilot, on both machines. The 12 was faster by about 10 or 15 kts, as I recall, using a cruise power setting of 28" MP and 1800 RPM. I never flew the 12 in the winter, so I can't comment on it, but on flights of any length the 10 was deathly cold in the cockpit. The janitrol heater just couldn't cope and the elephant pecker defroster wouldn't keep the windshield clear, so we carried an ice scraper to clear the frost from the inside of the windshield. The cabin was nice and warm though. The manual gear crank was located beside the co-pilot seat, so I got to exercise my left arm regularly. The gear motors were notoriously weak, so one always gave a couple of cranks at the end, just to avoid embarassment.
I like to think I helped in some small way to return TCC. I had seen the aircraft in the boneyard in Miami, it must have been in the early 1980's. It had been sitting there for years, ever since Quebecair sold off a half-dozen aircraft in 1968 or 1969 to help finance their BAC1-11's they bought from British Eagle. One night at the Montreal Interline Club I was bending elbows with a retired Air Canada engineer. He was an old bu&&er who had worked on the early Lockheeds, and the talk got around to TCC. I told him I had last seen it in Miami, still in Matane Air Services colours and with the logo over the cabin windows and the Canadian registration painted out, but if you looked at the aircraft with the sun at the correct angle you could still see the letters under the paint. The gentleman went on vacation a couple of days later and visited an airshow in Texas someplace. He saw a L10 in camo colours and thought "Why not?" He walked around until he got the sun at the proper angle. The rest, as they say, is history.
I like to think I helped in some small way to return TCC. I had seen the aircraft in the boneyard in Miami, it must have been in the early 1980's. It had been sitting there for years, ever since Quebecair sold off a half-dozen aircraft in 1968 or 1969 to help finance their BAC1-11's they bought from British Eagle. One night at the Montreal Interline Club I was bending elbows with a retired Air Canada engineer. He was an old bu&&er who had worked on the early Lockheeds, and the talk got around to TCC. I told him I had last seen it in Miami, still in Matane Air Services colours and with the logo over the cabin windows and the Canadian registration painted out, but if you looked at the aircraft with the sun at the correct angle you could still see the letters under the paint. The gentleman went on vacation a couple of days later and visited an airshow in Texas someplace. He saw a L10 in camo colours and thought "Why not?" He walked around until he got the sun at the proper angle. The rest, as they say, is history.
Originally Posted by JDK
DH106,
It IS rather hard to make out. Sorry. The white framework is a shape to 'outline' the cockpit and so forth of the Dr-1.
The following picture by my good friend Mr Melvyn Hiscock of the French Memorial Flight's Dr-1 should help as to the 'what are we lookin at then'.
It IS rather hard to make out. Sorry. The white framework is a shape to 'outline' the cockpit and so forth of the Dr-1.
The following picture by my good friend Mr Melvyn Hiscock of the French Memorial Flight's Dr-1 should help as to the 'what are we lookin at then'.
An obvious question....... the letters L & R.... if I was being facetious I'd say it's to remind the pilot which way is left & right
, but these letters must mean something in German?
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Originally Posted by DH106
Thanks for the picture JDK and the details CoodaShooda
An obvious question....... the letters L & R.... if I was being facetious I'd say it's to remind the pilot which way is left & right , but these letters must mean something in German?
An obvious question....... the letters L & R.... if I was being facetious I'd say it's to remind the pilot which way is left & right
, but these letters must mean something in German?
