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Well that's what they told me!. I suspect a fully-loaded DC-8 (-50?)doing REC-LHR, was probably pretty close to its limits in those days. Yeah I appreciate the bit about taxi/trip fuel etc., but all the seats were full, and there was lots of freight/mail on board too, so I think it probably was close to the MTOW limits, plus I was on an ID100, so I couldn't really compain!
The mossies have always taken advantage of me. Must be a blood group thing!
My legs are too hairy for a miniskirt, and anyway I could never compete with all that gorgeous Brazilian totty!
Well that's what they told me!. I suspect a fully-loaded DC-8 (-50?)doing REC-LHR, was probably pretty close to its limits in those days. Yeah I appreciate the bit about taxi/trip fuel etc., but all the seats were full, and there was lots of freight/mail on board too, so I think it probably was close to the MTOW limits, plus I was on an ID100, so I couldn't really compain!
The mossies have always taken advantage of me. Must be a blood group thing!
My legs are too hairy for a miniskirt, and anyway I could never compete with all that gorgeous Brazilian totty!
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I suspect a fully-loaded DC-8 (-50?)doing REC-LHR, was probably pretty close to its limits in those days.
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Calair/Novair - now there was an airline that was fun to work for, great routes and the best longhaul pay outside BA, Shame there was some under the table deal to close them down!
How about the likes of good old Jersey Airlines at least an aircraft which flew for them is still alive the DH114 Heron G-AORG.
The days before the Jersey European came about Intra Airways.
Rousseau Aviation on of the operators of the Nord 262 aircraft.
The early days of Delta Air Transport with there redish DC6s or the Convair before that.
The dodgey Lockheed Constellations that transited Jersey for i believe a chap called Mr D Baker.
One could go on and on
If only the clock could go back thirty or forty years wouldn.t it be fantastic??
The days before the Jersey European came about Intra Airways.
Rousseau Aviation on of the operators of the Nord 262 aircraft.
The early days of Delta Air Transport with there redish DC6s or the Convair before that.
The dodgey Lockheed Constellations that transited Jersey for i believe a chap called Mr D Baker.
One could go on and on
If only the clock could go back thirty or forty years wouldn.t it be fantastic??
I had an Airfix model of G-AORG when I was young but I never saw it until GBFWE at Wroughton a few years ago.
What about Morton Air Services? And "Metropolitan Air Movements" who had a single Dove at LGW?
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Air Nauru. Started with an F28 or two in 1973 and by the early Eighties had a couple of 727's and a brace of 737-200. Phophate rich island just poured the fuel into those aircraft and off we went sometimes with no passengers but just the crew to Honolulu and back via Majuro. Same thing Guam to Kagoshima and Okinawa and to Samoa and Raratonga and Noumea to Tonga. And to many of the old battlefields of the Pacific war. Tarawa, Saipan, Ponape, Truk. We lost sodding millions of dollars over the years but what a wonderful route structure...
Pity about the Nauraun population though - poor medical facilities and even worse education when teachers from the Sub-Continent arrived.
But purely from the point of view of the pilots who flew the Boeings, certainly the most enjoyable flying I have done in my career.
The airline went down the drain last year. It was a miracle it lasted 32 years...
Pity about the Nauraun population though - poor medical facilities and even worse education when teachers from the Sub-Continent arrived.
But purely from the point of view of the pilots who flew the Boeings, certainly the most enjoyable flying I have done in my career.
The airline went down the drain last year. It was a miracle it lasted 32 years...
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Republic - The friendly airline
MSP - SFO - LAX - MSP in those beautiful DC9's.
Enough Flight attendants to stop at every seat, discuss the weather, the view, your business, your vacation, your family, kids birthdays, and still serve a proper meal on plates with cutlery and wine.
With a huge window which allowed you to look down as well as out without straining your neck or loosening your seat belt.
Finally a Captain who had been sausage side a few times in 'nam and took us up to the cruise after the fashion of the proverbial F4 he used to drive. (He told us).
It was never the same on Northwest, too many people, not enough help, and timmies (DC10's ?) flown like Viscounts.
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Enough Flight attendants to stop at every seat, discuss the weather, the view, your business, your vacation, your family, kids birthdays, and still serve a proper meal on plates with cutlery and wine.
With a huge window which allowed you to look down as well as out without straining your neck or loosening your seat belt.
Finally a Captain who had been sausage side a few times in 'nam and took us up to the cruise after the fashion of the proverbial F4 he used to drive. (He told us).
It was never the same on Northwest, too many people, not enough help, and timmies (DC10's ?) flown like Viscounts.
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No brainer:-
BCal to hong Kong on the DC10 - great crews, great jet
BMA Viscount, London - Belfast, proper window, proper breakfast
RAF C130 Akrotiri - Lyneham, after a night of Keeebab and pandemonium you just didn't care.....
BCal to hong Kong on the DC10 - great crews, great jet
BMA Viscount, London - Belfast, proper window, proper breakfast
RAF C130 Akrotiri - Lyneham, after a night of Keeebab and pandemonium you just didn't care.....
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I have often wondered about the whereabouts of G-ARAY. I flew it in 1966 at Woodford when the RAAF sent crews to England to convert on to the 748 prior to ferrying the VIP version back to Oz. My instructors then were Tony Blackman, Eric Franklin and Bill Else. Good blokes all.
Dan-Air for the lonely 748 G-ARAY
G-ARAY was withdrawn from use during 10/89 at Lasham and broken up 04/90 presumably at the same location. Sad really, for what was considered the prototype 748 to end it's days like that. I used to regularly go from Manchester to Leeds in the small hours to sort out Radio defects on the old girl in the mid '70s when she was based there for Dan
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Sorry, gotta ask - are those the 737s that don't fly out of Las Ahem, to Harrrummphhh Lake? Janet eh? Like it... I didn't see one parked on the far side when I wasn't passing though in 2000...
Who's asking ..... ?! 
Careful, they'll be 'round. 
Allegedly not, or allegedly so, depends ...
The best "Allegedly" I've heard about Janet is that it's "JANET", for "Just Another Non Extra-terrestrial Transport" Cute ...
Anyway ... back on topic ...
BOAC ... anything with a "Speedbird" on the side
Aerlinte Eireann with the Seaboard Super Constellation's (I believe one still exists!)
Does Monthy Pythons Flying Circus count?
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Careful, they'll be 'round. Allegedly not, or allegedly so, depends ...
The best "Allegedly" I've heard about Janet is that it's "JANET", for "Just Another Non Extra-terrestrial Transport" Cute ... Anyway ... back on topic ...
BOAC ... anything with a "Speedbird" on the side
Aerlinte Eireann with the Seaboard Super Constellation's (I believe one still exists!)
Does Monthy Pythons Flying Circus count?
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Can't say I wish they were still around...........but does anyone remember Site Aviation in Scotland? My first job was with them in '74 as a FO on DC3s, but having been there for about a month filling in as an office boy and not flying, I left and went to Air Anglia. I think once they finally got up they only operated for less than a year.
does anyone remember Site Aviation in Scotland? My first job was with them in '74 as a FO on DC3s, but having been there for about a month filling in as an office boy and not flying, I left and went to Air Anglia. I think once they finally got up they only operated for less than a year.
After a bit more messing around with some leased Viscounts they went out of business in May 1974.
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I started with them at the end of Jan '74 at their "Head Office" just outside Edinburgh just by the bridge. (South Queensferry???)
Yes they had intentions of operating out of ABZ doing oil work. But if I recall correctly, the only thing flying up until when I left in early March was an Aztec. The DC3s were having work done on them.
Myself and another new CPL holder with no hours spent our time answering phones, helping out with the new ops manual and listening to stories on how they were going to expand!
I started with them at the end of Jan '74 at their "Head Office" just outside Edinburgh just by the bridge. (South Queensferry???)
Yes they had intentions of operating out of ABZ doing oil work. But if I recall correctly, the only thing flying up until when I left in early March was an Aztec. The DC3s were having work done on them.
Myself and another new CPL holder with no hours spent our time answering phones, helping out with the new ops manual and listening to stories on how they were going to expand!
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