RIAT Friday pics - a close shave
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RIAT Friday pics - a close shave
Friday, the last chance to practise before show day.
First a couple of arrivals
Airbedane has arrived, we can begin!
The 11 Sqn Tornado F3 with a rather excited Nav
Didn’t they forget someone at Boscombe??
Italians in the static (which while relatively empty will be a nighmare to photograph on show days
Sea Harrier and Tornado arrival breaks
A wonderful formation of the Red Arrows and 3 Spitfires
This was VERY close to disaster!!!
First a couple of arrivals
Airbedane has arrived, we can begin!
The 11 Sqn Tornado F3 with a rather excited Nav
Didn’t they forget someone at Boscombe??
Italians in the static (which while relatively empty will be a nighmare to photograph on show days
Sea Harrier and Tornado arrival breaks
A wonderful formation of the Red Arrows and 3 Spitfires
This was VERY close to disaster!!!
We were just walking back to Gold to crew-in our Flying Club PA28 formation when it happened. Closest I've ever seen to a very nasty accident.....
PS-Did you get any piccies of our little formation?
PS-Did you get any piccies of our little formation?
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Was just about to send you a PM MOTF, but the pic already answers the question. Was standing there in disbelief as the aircraft dropped beneath the fence line and still dscending. The video of the incident is chilling.
Good news is that our man has balls of steel and the Typhoon went up again for rehearsal (other A/C) just over an hour ago and gave a cracking display.
Well done again Nick - these pics are wonderful.
Cheers,
Conan
Good news is that our man has balls of steel and the Typhoon went up again for rehearsal (other A/C) just over an hour ago and gave a cracking display.
Well done again Nick - these pics are wonderful.
Cheers,
Conan
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Onan he was descending like a brick at the time the photo was taken, with the nose coming up but the downward component very much in place. I was expecting a very big bang imminently. Rather reminiscent of the Sukhio crash at Paris.
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Conan
Cheers,
Conan
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On personal experience I'd have done neither, just stood there in slack-jawed disbelief. A personal exhibition of stupidity I hope to never have to repeat...
Our mate in the Tiffie is very lucky... over on Mil, someone mentioned the F-4 at Abingdon in '88 - I witnessed same crew at Duxford a week or so before, and was relieved they didn't pile in. Then. This guy I feel - post shreddy change - is a very much the wiser. Not a criticism, just a plea.... stay safe!
Our mate in the Tiffie is very lucky... over on Mil, someone mentioned the F-4 at Abingdon in '88 - I witnessed same crew at Duxford a week or so before, and was relieved they didn't pile in. Then. This guy I feel - post shreddy change - is a very much the wiser. Not a criticism, just a plea.... stay safe!
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Just wondered, showing my ignorance, is it normal to have slats down while performing loops?
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Or do the slats drop automatically at high angles of attack, a real life saver?
Yes...the FCS deploys the slats and and flaperons automatically deploy and retract to optimise the aircraft’s wing camber at all AoA.
Good save Matt...live long and prosper!
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Yes...the FCS deploys the slats and and flaperons automatically deploy and retract to optimise the aircraft’s wing camber at all AoA.
Good save Matt...live long and prosper!
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Echo treadigraph's comment - just stood in disbelief. Thought my panic might have been due to blunty ignorance but then saw everyone in the Breitling enclosure standing with their hands on their heads.
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Lucky indeed. Having been the senior CAA airshow trapper for 14 years until 1998 that is the sort of situation where the intervention of a FDSC is absolutely vital. I do not care what colour the "grow bag" is, that pilot would have been in no fit state to continue with his "validation" without a period on the ground for rest and serious reflection.
For similar situations over past decades in airshows the world over I can recommend reading "Zero Error Margin" by Des Barker. An experienced South African fast jet display pilot who has done a fantastic job in researching airshow accidents in all categories of aircraft. It should be mandatory reading for ALL display pilots, service or civil.
Only the guys laundry person will know the real truth of that one, either that or he is one dense individual. We all make errors and I have made more than most over 50 years in airshows to the extent of a surplus of two in takeoffs versus landings in displays. I share one personal asset with that Typhoon pilot; we are both very lucky people.................................!!
Cheers,
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For similar situations over past decades in airshows the world over I can recommend reading "Zero Error Margin" by Des Barker. An experienced South African fast jet display pilot who has done a fantastic job in researching airshow accidents in all categories of aircraft. It should be mandatory reading for ALL display pilots, service or civil.
Only the guys laundry person will know the real truth of that one, either that or he is one dense individual. We all make errors and I have made more than most over 50 years in airshows to the extent of a surplus of two in takeoffs versus landings in displays. I share one personal asset with that Typhoon pilot; we are both very lucky people.................................!!
Cheers,
Trapper 69
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There have been suggestions that it was the fly by wire and computer stabilisation system software that caused the near tragedy.
A software problem, minor or otherwise, is absolutely no excuse acceptable to me. In the civil display world in the UK we grant display authorisations to pilots, not software engineers.
I suppose I am a bit of a luddite in that my whole 51 years as a pilot have relied on rods and cables to connect my brain to the control surfaces through hands and feet. However the F16 has been a factor in UK airshows for probably a couple of decades and they have not had problems.
Is it a couple of years too soon to be displaying the Typhoon in public if such a situation can arise..?? Have they got all the glitches out..?? Comments appreciated.
Cheers,
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A software problem, minor or otherwise, is absolutely no excuse acceptable to me. In the civil display world in the UK we grant display authorisations to pilots, not software engineers.
I suppose I am a bit of a luddite in that my whole 51 years as a pilot have relied on rods and cables to connect my brain to the control surfaces through hands and feet. However the F16 has been a factor in UK airshows for probably a couple of decades and they have not had problems.
Is it a couple of years too soon to be displaying the Typhoon in public if such a situation can arise..?? Have they got all the glitches out..?? Comments appreciated.
Cheers,
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Unless the pilot knew what went wrong and knew that it would not happen next time. Which may well have been been the case.
that pilot would have been in no fit state to continue with his "validation" without a period on the ground for rest and serious reflection.
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Almost identical pic in the Torygraph today, but it looks far more dramatic in colour!
The Torygraph story ends "It is an internal matter between the pilot, his groundcrew and his commanding officers to establish what went wrong". Can't help wondeing if he'll keep his hat on and forego the tea & biccies.....
The Torygraph story ends "It is an internal matter between the pilot, his groundcrew and his commanding officers to establish what went wrong". Can't help wondeing if he'll keep his hat on and forego the tea & biccies.....
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John,
Sorry but we must agree to differ.
The pilot did have his period on the ground, no doubt in the process of being before the RIAT FDSC, then he, apparently, successfully validated with a second attempt.
To have broken off then continued with the first effort would have been a gross error by ALL involved and we both know who those may have been.
Nice to chat, albeit electronically. Hope you are in the best of health and enjoying retirement. I certainly am, thanks in no small part to the aviation forums - along with G-KEST which is in fine fettle.
Cheers,
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Sorry but we must agree to differ.
The pilot did have his period on the ground, no doubt in the process of being before the RIAT FDSC, then he, apparently, successfully validated with a second attempt.
To have broken off then continued with the first effort would have been a gross error by ALL involved and we both know who those may have been.
Nice to chat, albeit electronically. Hope you are in the best of health and enjoying retirement. I certainly am, thanks in no small part to the aviation forums - along with G-KEST which is in fine fettle.
Cheers,
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