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Quick Question then I'll delete.
In 1969 I remember seeing a Lancaster as gate guard at RAF Scampton.
Is this the same plane that is now call Just Jane and based at East Kirkby in Lincolnshire ?
If not, what happened to it ?
Thanks,
Clint.
In 1969 I remember seeing a Lancaster as gate guard at RAF Scampton.
Is this the same plane that is now call Just Jane and based at East Kirkby in Lincolnshire ?
If not, what happened to it ?
Thanks,
Clint.
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JDK - Check your dates! Just Jane was still airworthy in 1969 !
Her last flight was on the 26th of June 1970.
I would suggest that the Lancaster on the gate at Scampton was R5868 shortly before she was despatched to the RAFM Hendon.
Her last flight was on the 26th of June 1970.
I would suggest that the Lancaster on the gate at Scampton was R5868 shortly before she was despatched to the RAFM Hendon.
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Oops!
quite right RD, I didn't even look at the date. From the WRG Database (http://www.warbirdregistry.org/):
"Serial #: R5868
Construction #: ?
Civil Registration:
_ None
Model(s):
_ B Mk. I
_ Vickers
Name: S for Sugar
Status: Airworthy "(Hmmm. Not really!)"
Last info: 2004
_ History:
Delivered to RAF as R5868.
- Assigned to 83 Sqn/467 Sqn as PO-S.
- Flew 137 sorties.
RAF Wroughton, Sept. 1, 1947-1958.
- Stored.
RAF Scampton, 1958-1970.
- Gate Guard.
RAF Bicester, Aug. 24, 1970-1972.
- Restored for RAF Museum.
RAF Museum, Hendon, Mar. 20, 1972-2004.
- Displayed as R5868/PO-S."
And G-ASXX:
"Serial #: NX611
Construction #: ?
Civil Registration:
_ G-ASXX
Model(s):
_ B Mk. VII
_ MR. Mk. 7
_ Austin
Name: Just Jane
Status: Display*
Last info: 2002
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*NX611 retains ability to taxi under own power.
_ History:
Built by Austin Motors Ltd, Birmingham, 19??.
Delivered to Aeronavale as WU-15, New Caladonia.
- BOC: June 1952.
- SOC: 1964.
- Delivered to Noumea-Sydney, Australia for HAPS, Aug. 1964.
Malcom D.N. Fisher/Historic Aircraft Preservation Society, Biggin Hill, Oct. 22, 1964-1967.
- Registered as G-ASXX.
- Delivered to Biggin Hill from Sydney, Australia, May 13, 1965-1967.
Reflectaire Museum, Lacenham/Squires Gate, May 19, 1967-1972.
- Last flight, delivery from Lavenham to Squires Gate, June 26, 1970.
Lord Ilford, April 1972-1984.
- Loaned to RAF Scrampton, Aug. 1973-1988.
-- Arrived disassembled.
-- Displayed as gate guard "YF-C".
Fred & Harold Panton/Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Center, East Kirby, 1983-2002.
There we go!
- Delivered by road from Scrampton to East Kirby, Apr. 1988.
- Restored to taxi condition.
- Displayed as NX611/CM-V/"Just Jane"."
quite right RD, I didn't even look at the date. From the WRG Database (http://www.warbirdregistry.org/):
"Serial #: R5868
Construction #: ?
Civil Registration:
_ None
Model(s):
_ B Mk. I
_ Vickers
Name: S for Sugar
Status: Airworthy "(Hmmm. Not really!)"
Last info: 2004
_ History:
Delivered to RAF as R5868.
- Assigned to 83 Sqn/467 Sqn as PO-S.
- Flew 137 sorties.
RAF Wroughton, Sept. 1, 1947-1958.
- Stored.
RAF Scampton, 1958-1970.
- Gate Guard.
RAF Bicester, Aug. 24, 1970-1972.
- Restored for RAF Museum.
RAF Museum, Hendon, Mar. 20, 1972-2004.
- Displayed as R5868/PO-S."
And G-ASXX:
"Serial #: NX611
Construction #: ?
Civil Registration:
_ G-ASXX
Model(s):
_ B Mk. VII
_ MR. Mk. 7
_ Austin
Name: Just Jane
Status: Display*
Last info: 2002
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*NX611 retains ability to taxi under own power.
_ History:
Built by Austin Motors Ltd, Birmingham, 19??.
Delivered to Aeronavale as WU-15, New Caladonia.
- BOC: June 1952.
- SOC: 1964.
- Delivered to Noumea-Sydney, Australia for HAPS, Aug. 1964.
Malcom D.N. Fisher/Historic Aircraft Preservation Society, Biggin Hill, Oct. 22, 1964-1967.
- Registered as G-ASXX.
- Delivered to Biggin Hill from Sydney, Australia, May 13, 1965-1967.
Reflectaire Museum, Lacenham/Squires Gate, May 19, 1967-1972.
- Last flight, delivery from Lavenham to Squires Gate, June 26, 1970.
Lord Ilford, April 1972-1984.
- Loaned to RAF Scrampton, Aug. 1973-1988.
-- Arrived disassembled.
-- Displayed as gate guard "YF-C".
Fred & Harold Panton/Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Center, East Kirby, 1983-2002.
There we go!
- Delivered by road from Scrampton to East Kirby, Apr. 1988.
- Restored to taxi condition.
- Displayed as NX611/CM-V/"Just Jane"."
And how smart NX611 looked guarding the gate at that fine old bomber station back when we could afford an air force bigger than a flying club....
There's nothing on the gate there any more...
There's nothing on the gate there any more...
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Very true BEagle, but to balance things out slightly, NX611 now fulfils an important role as a unique live memorial to the 55,000 men of Bomber Command who left these shores never to return. And of course, this also means she is maintained in a running condition, under cover and away from the elements, all of which will help to ensure her preservation for far longer than if she'd still been sat outside.
I do take your point though; it used to be nice to have an air force which was big enough to fulfil all the roles demanded of it...
I do take your point though; it used to be nice to have an air force which was big enough to fulfil all the roles demanded of it...
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Thanks Guys for all the info. Just what I needed.
Here are a couple of pics of G-ASXX taken at Hurn just after she returned from Australia.
Clint.
Pics by JN.
Here are a couple of pics of G-ASXX taken at Hurn just after she returned from Australia.
Clint.
Pics by JN.
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Much as I hate to disagree, I'll think you'll find those pictures were taken at Biggin rather than Hurn. She was parked just off the south GA apron in front of what is now jet Aviation's hangar. In the second picture can be seen the old Surrey and Kent flying club (far too many "Happy Hours" spent there) and in the background the building with the white external stairs is I believe what is now Jock Maitlands Air dispalys int office.
The Hangar in the background is the old surreys building whick has long since gone and was replaced by the current Avtech hangar. Sadly I didn't work there when the lanc was present but have seen her since at East Kirkby and thought the museum was very testefully done.
JB
Much as I hate to disagree, I'll think you'll find those pictures were taken at Biggin rather than Hurn. She was parked just off the south GA apron in front of what is now jet Aviation's hangar. In the second picture can be seen the old Surrey and Kent flying club (far too many "Happy Hours" spent there) and in the background the building with the white external stairs is I believe what is now Jock Maitlands Air dispalys int office.
The Hangar in the background is the old surreys building whick has long since gone and was replaced by the current Avtech hangar. Sadly I didn't work there when the lanc was present but have seen her since at East Kirkby and thought the museum was very testefully done.
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This is spookey. This afternoon I was talking to JN who took the pictures. He said they were taken at EGKB not EGHH.
I thought nobody would know so I left it !!!!!
Well done mate !!
Clint.
A bit off topic jb, but what do you think of the car on the left of the pic. Is it a Corsair Estate or maybe a Sunbeam Alpine ? Any ideas ?
This is spookey. This afternoon I was talking to JN who took the pictures. He said they were taken at EGKB not EGHH.
I thought nobody would know so I left it !!!!!
Well done mate !!
Clint.
A bit off topic jb, but what do you think of the car on the left of the pic. Is it a Corsair Estate or maybe a Sunbeam Alpine ? Any ideas ?
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A bit off topic jb, but what do you think of the car on the left of the pic. Is it a Corsair Estate or maybe a Sunbeam Alpine ? Any ideas ?
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Car Trivia
I would also agree on the Vauxhall Victor Estate, and I seem to remember that roof was pink!
In the last photograph can I suggest from left to right, Ferrari GTO, Ford Anglia (or Prefect), Mini (a real Issigonis one not the ersatz BMW thing), Humber Sceptre and another Mini.
Anorak mode off
I would also agree on the Vauxhall Victor Estate, and I seem to remember that roof was pink!
In the last photograph can I suggest from left to right, Ferrari GTO, Ford Anglia (or Prefect), Mini (a real Issigonis one not the ersatz BMW thing), Humber Sceptre and another Mini.
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Cars
I think its a Cortina MK1 rather than an Anglia, back windows and fins don't looked raked enough.
Can't comment about the Humber Sceptre, I did see on a few years ago but only from the inside! How?, well I got a ride in one years ago from a friend who's now a senior BAL F/O. It was memorable because I was shareing the front floor space, (note not seat!!!) with a pushbike, and god knows how many fag ends and half eaten Kebabs and all his old crap as he was goin home for Xmas. Oh and the engine compartment leaked exhaust fumes, for the 5 mile trip, it nearly killed me. So If anyone from the white hatters has an F/O with a bit of a habbit for depositing fags, kebabs and pushbikes next to the rudder pedals and has a penchant for ****e british cars, its him!
Can't comment about the Humber Sceptre, I did see on a few years ago but only from the inside! How?, well I got a ride in one years ago from a friend who's now a senior BAL F/O. It was memorable because I was shareing the front floor space, (note not seat!!!) with a pushbike, and god knows how many fag ends and half eaten Kebabs and all his old crap as he was goin home for Xmas. Oh and the engine compartment leaked exhaust fumes, for the 5 mile trip, it nearly killed me. So If anyone from the white hatters has an F/O with a bit of a habbit for depositing fags, kebabs and pushbikes next to the rudder pedals and has a penchant for ****e british cars, its him!
When Anoraks Attack (part II)
Cortina MK1 see here
http://www.topgear.com/content/featu..._centenary/04/
Anglia see here
http://www.fordanglia105eownersclub.co.uk/
for a decent ford see here
http://www.gt40.org.uk/#
I'm still too traumatised by the Sceptre incident to even look for one of those
http://www.topgear.com/content/featu..._centenary/04/
Anglia see here
http://www.fordanglia105eownersclub.co.uk/
for a decent ford see here
http://www.gt40.org.uk/#
I'm still too traumatised by the Sceptre incident to even look for one of those
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In an attempt to get this Thread back on course ! I am posting this picture of TB25N N9089Z. Taken at Biggin Hill the same time as the pics. of G-ASXX.
Could it be the same aircraft that is in the background of the picture posted by jabberwok ?
Oh, and some nice old cars in the foreground too !
Clint.
pic. from JN.
Could it be the same aircraft that is in the background of the picture posted by jabberwok ?
Oh, and some nice old cars in the foreground too !
Clint.
pic. from JN.
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Blimey! These photos take me back. I have a pic of me as a eleven year old in the cockpit of G-XX at Biggin, taken just after my first flight in a Chippy. My Dad's best friend, a former Lancaster pilot, was one of the group looking after it.
I remember the B25 for other reaons too. After getting out of the Lancaster I ran towards it (It was parked in some long grass) and neatly skewered my leg on a piece of rusty angle iron resting on some bricks. I still have the scar today!
I remember the B25 for other reaons too. After getting out of the Lancaster I ran towards it (It was parked in some long grass) and neatly skewered my leg on a piece of rusty angle iron resting on some bricks. I still have the scar today!