Isaacs Spitfire
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Isaacs Spitfire
OK, so it's not strictly "historic", but the design dates back to mid-60s/ early-70s, and I think it was the first attempt at a practical Spitfire replica.
Anyway, I was just wondering whether anyone might have some photos of the prototype?? I've only ever seen a handful of photos of it (most of them in John Isaacs book) and would be interested in seeing some more if people had them.
Anyway, I was just wondering whether anyone might have some photos of the prototype?? I've only ever seen a handful of photos of it (most of them in John Isaacs book) and would be interested in seeing some more if people had them.
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I've seen a pic of it from the 82-83 Janes, and one of Jeremy Flack's books, but that seems to be all, aside from those mentioned 
It's a shame as this is a pretty little aeroplane and, as someone else stated, it's more like a homebuilt inspired by the Spitfire than a straightforward Spitfire replica.
It's a shame as this is a pretty little aeroplane and, as someone else stated, it's more like a homebuilt inspired by the Spitfire than a straightforward Spitfire replica.
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The March / April PFA magazine dropped through the letterbox today and lo and behold, among the classifieds FOR SALE is
(that's how it's advertised)
Rgds BEX
THE Issacs Spifire
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Just checked in Merseyside Av. Soc.'s "British Homebuilt Aircraft since 1920" (2nd Ed. publ. Apr 1979), and it says that John Isaacs began construction in 1969, and the aircraft flew from Thruxton early in 1975. It's approx 6/10 scale. I vaguely remember it turning up at one of the PFA rallies at Sywell, probably 1975/76.
Another scale/replica Spitfire design was produced by Marcel Jurca as the MJ-10. Jurca is probably better known for the Tempete and Scirocco, but has also produced plans for a scale Mustang. At the time the Homebuilts book mentioned above was written, two Jurca Spits were under construction in the UK. It would be interesting to find out if they have ever seen the light of day.
Another scale/replica Spitfire design was produced by Marcel Jurca as the MJ-10. Jurca is probably better known for the Tempete and Scirocco, but has also produced plans for a scale Mustang. At the time the Homebuilts book mentioned above was written, two Jurca Spits were under construction in the UK. It would be interesting to find out if they have ever seen the light of day.
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Rabbit Leader...
The quote is verbatim. It doesn't actually say "The Prototype", merely :
So, whether it actually is'JI, you can't tell. Unless of course you ring the chap up.
I'm not going to give out the details here as :
1) I don't want the chap bothered by "time wasters" And
2) I'd rather like people to join the PFA
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The quote is verbatim. It doesn't actually say "The Prototype", merely :
THE Issacs Spitfire
I'm not going to give out the details here as :
1) I don't want the chap bothered by "time wasters" And
2) I'd rather like people to join the PFA
Rgds BEX
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Well, the prototype is the only one to have flown, to my knowledge, and there are only two on the UK register - G-BBJI and G-BXOM, which is being built by a Welsh bloke whom I'm going to see next weekend.
I'm planning on joining the PFA very soon. In fact, I'll send a cheque for my membership along with one for my Spitfire plans. Sandy Hutton is on his way up here next Friday as it happens....
I'm planning on joining the PFA very soon. In fact, I'll send a cheque for my membership along with one for my Spitfire plans. Sandy Hutton is on his way up here next Friday as it happens....
Be warned Rabbit Leader.
Isaacs designed two replicas, the Spitfire and the Fury; I understand that the man-hours and manufacturing techniques are pretty similar between the two.
I met a gent once who had just finished building an Isaacs Fury, which he'd started just after he'd retired. I asked how many hours it took, he said about 3,500.
What profession had he retired from? - he had spent his entire life as a carpenter.
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Isaacs designed two replicas, the Spitfire and the Fury; I understand that the man-hours and manufacturing techniques are pretty similar between the two.
I met a gent once who had just finished building an Isaacs Fury, which he'd started just after he'd retired. I asked how many hours it took, he said about 3,500.
What profession had he retired from? - he had spent his entire life as a carpenter.
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I happen to own the original Fury - It is my dream to have the pair. Alas, I'm pretty broke at the moment ho hum. It would be great to get them both to the PFA rally this year though, it would be the first time since the 70's I believe.
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Aeromodeller, August 1976, feaured a description of the Isaac's Spitfire, several b&w pictures, scale drawings and a front cover colour picture. Aeromodeller is now owned by Model Activity Press - contact them on: [email protected], I'm sure they could supply a photo-copy.
Spookily enough, the current Publisher of Aeromodeller, Tony Dowdeswell, was at Old Warden yesterday during the Nostalgia Drinkies Bash, taking photos of the Collection's Comper for a future feature - had you been here and had you known, you could have asked him direct. It's amazing who you miss at these Bashes.....
Airbedane.
Spookily enough, the current Publisher of Aeromodeller, Tony Dowdeswell, was at Old Warden yesterday during the Nostalgia Drinkies Bash, taking photos of the Collection's Comper for a future feature - had you been here and had you known, you could have asked him direct. It's amazing who you miss at these Bashes.....
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I digress...
Kingy,
Is yours the award winning yellow machine that was built by Dudley (Flair Model Aircraft kits) Patterson?
A beautiful aircraft if so.
I remember it at Lower Upham Farm - for sale at the time for not a lot of money - when we went to buy Clive Du Cros' Messenger there.
I cant understand how somebody can spend such a chunk of their lives crafting something so exquisite, only to sell it for a lot lot less than it cost to build (and thats just the sum of the bits!)
Did you get to know Dudley? Did you buy it from him? Super bloke, now flying Robin Regent G-DUDZ.
He does get to a lot of the vintage aircraft events.
Whats it like to fly?
Enjoy!
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Is yours the award winning yellow machine that was built by Dudley (Flair Model Aircraft kits) Patterson?
A beautiful aircraft if so.
I remember it at Lower Upham Farm - for sale at the time for not a lot of money - when we went to buy Clive Du Cros' Messenger there.
I cant understand how somebody can spend such a chunk of their lives crafting something so exquisite, only to sell it for a lot lot less than it cost to build (and thats just the sum of the bits!)
Did you get to know Dudley? Did you buy it from him? Super bloke, now flying Robin Regent G-DUDZ.
He does get to a lot of the vintage aircraft events.
Whats it like to fly?
Enjoy!
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HP,
Hi, I have seen Dudley's beautiful Fury - I was hugely impressed by the streamlined flying wires and the hand beat alloy cowls. He did sell it for very little and it does seem that Furies don't fetch much money. I've always thought it was strange because they are an absolutely gorgeous aircraft both in the air and to look at - perhaps it's because of their reputation for being a bit of a handful on the ground.. which there're not really.
I half own G-ASCM John Isaacs' original Fury. It's a real privilege to own a piece of British avation history. She's been pranged a few times over the years and has been re built with twin fuel tanks, brakes and a tailwheel. Sadly, the original alloy blister cowlings have gone and, at present, is in 'dirty' configuration. Dudley flew in to our strip back in the summer and gave us the number of his panel beater - we're hoping to restore her original lines as in John's book at some point. She's been out of the air for a while - we've had problems replacing the mags, but finally settled on new slicks with no impulse, we've fitted a lovely new GT prop too. I'll be digging her out of the back of the hangar next weekend and going for a start...!
Don't pass up a chance to fly a Fury as they have perfect 'British' handling and really do feel right in the air, with the ratio between the controls being spot-on. Just watch out for the masses of drag..
Cordially
Kingy
Hi, I have seen Dudley's beautiful Fury - I was hugely impressed by the streamlined flying wires and the hand beat alloy cowls. He did sell it for very little and it does seem that Furies don't fetch much money. I've always thought it was strange because they are an absolutely gorgeous aircraft both in the air and to look at - perhaps it's because of their reputation for being a bit of a handful on the ground.. which there're not really.
I half own G-ASCM John Isaacs' original Fury. It's a real privilege to own a piece of British avation history. She's been pranged a few times over the years and has been re built with twin fuel tanks, brakes and a tailwheel. Sadly, the original alloy blister cowlings have gone and, at present, is in 'dirty' configuration. Dudley flew in to our strip back in the summer and gave us the number of his panel beater - we're hoping to restore her original lines as in John's book at some point. She's been out of the air for a while - we've had problems replacing the mags, but finally settled on new slicks with no impulse, we've fitted a lovely new GT prop too. I'll be digging her out of the back of the hangar next weekend and going for a start...!
Don't pass up a chance to fly a Fury as they have perfect 'British' handling and really do feel right in the air, with the ratio between the controls being spot-on. Just watch out for the masses of drag..
Cordially
Kingy
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Dudley's Fury - would that be the yellow and silver one?
I'm currently reading about JO Isaacs' Fury in his book. It's a fascinating read, although of course I'm looking forward to reading the bit about the Spitfire
I'm currently reading about JO Isaacs' Fury in his book. It's a fascinating read, although of course I'm looking forward to reading the bit about the Spitfire
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Dudleys Fury
Yep! Same scheme as my Magister - yellow with polished alloy cowlings.
I think he won best homebuild wit it one year at the PFA Rally??
Love to see any of Isaacs machines at Old Warden. Check out the airshow programme for this season and come on down!
HP
I think he won best homebuild wit it one year at the PFA Rally??
Love to see any of Isaacs machines at Old Warden. Check out the airshow programme for this season and come on down!
HP