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Old 11th Nov 2003, 01:49
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100 years of Flight

Could any one tell me if there are any events/flyins planed for the 17th of Dec as I wish to mark the event by aviating and would actualy like somewhere to go.
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I shall get the aeroplane out, fly a symbolic 120 feet, and taxi in.

I can do that even if it's peeing down with a 50 ft cloud base, just as long as the aeroplane is OK. But if the weather is nice, after that symbolic 'hop' I will go flying.

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Shuttleworth are hoping to fly the Boxkite and a Tiger or the Maggie
Due to fly at 10-35 and the airfield will be open from 0900.
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Wasn't the first flight at 10.35am EST?

Therefore don't we need to be hopping around 15.35UTC ?

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No, no.

What we should do as -ah- good Europeans, is say in a bad French accent some months later: "Mon dieu! We are az nozzing!" And then get cracking on Concord(e). Ah. Opps. Or some neat Depredessi... That fast French racer thingy from 1911 ish.

Personally a visit to Old Warden, the most historicly commemorative place in the UK would be fave (I know there's places which have 'more history' but none have as much that WORKS - thanks Chris Morris & Co.

Or Brooklands. Thanks Mr Roe; shyest pioneer award, and damn fine gent too.

Alternatively, why not go to the Science museum, stare reverently at the one and only deHavilland (sorry, BAe, sorry tins-that-go-bang-Co) 'Flyer' in the shed at the top and blow a good old British rasberry at the Langley Smithsonian crowd.

See, lots to do. Now as soon as I've untied these white sleeves...

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Exclamation 100 years of flight web site

I think that I've posted this before perhaps a kindly Mod could sticky it for me!

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Old 12th Nov 2003, 00:09
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Brilliant.

The RAF Museum is opening 'milestones of flight' on the 18th December. Why? Because they are having a jamboree for suits on the 17th. Public museum or private club?

To cap it all they have publicised that they are OPEN on the 17th on the RaES website. I wonder how many of the public are going to be royally 'annoyed' by turning up on the day, and not being able to get in...

Superb.

I DO hope I'm wrong.

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Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum is opening the Udvar Hazy Center at IAD on 12/15. Web site (www.nasm.si.edu/museum/udvarhazy/vtour.cfm) has a couple live web cams. Camera 2 (south view) has a Concorde (in Air France colors unfortunately, no rasberries or other overripe fruit please)
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I'm logged in on the AOPA site to get airbourne but if you're "oop North" they are having a Fly-In at Elvington. All the details on Flyer forum. Did I say that ?
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What is December 17, and why is that date used as the Centenary of man's first powered flight?

The Centenary of the first powered flight occurred on March 31, 2002 to mark man's first flight by Richard Pearse at Waitohi, New Zealand, on March 31, 1902.

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The AOPa are organising a 100yr commemoration here:-AOPA 100
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Nice post. Well Said.

How's Bobby ?

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Old 17th Nov 2003, 20:08
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I hate to piss on your parade chaps but Pearce himself has gone on record as saying his work didnt begin until 1904 and he did not fly.

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Old 17th Nov 2003, 20:56
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...and, whoever is right, as we missed the party then, we'll just have to celebrate this time around...

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Mr G. Bobby is fine, hale and hearty in Sydney. Seems to improve with age, although his health wasn't good a while back.

He's just back from a Spitfire Association reunion at Darwin where I think the wiley old codgers re won the Pacific air war and planned new methods of smuggling booze in Spitfires. (Bobby Gibbes, Australia's second highest scoring war ace was Court marshalled and busted from Group Captain to Squadron Leader for smuggling booze "for personal cunsumption" in an RAAF Spitfire. With Bobby's demonstrated thirst, I'm surprised the Spit actually got airborne.)

There can't be too many World War II air aces left. Bobby may be one of the last. He's certainly one of the best with a far too interesting and full life behind him.

And if the definition of "powered flight" is to have an "apparatus" where lift exceed drag and the "apparatus" defies gravity under it's own power, Pearce beat the Wrights!

And only a Kiwi could think of something like this contraption:

Richard Pearse's first patented invention, dating from 1902, was an ingenious new style of bicycle, bamboo-framed with a vertical-drive pedal action, rod-and-rack gearing system, back-pedal rim-brakes and integral tyre pumps.

The mind boggles................
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I think there was something about being 'controlable' that won the Wrights the palm... Generally given by most, but there is a series in the A magazine which covers all the other claimants - including Mr P, and Albert Santos-Dumont this month. South America declined to join in the 'pan American celebration' because they claimed AS-D was ahead of the Wrights (which he wasn't, but why let truth stand in for patriotism!)
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Old 21st Nov 2003, 02:51
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If Pearce himself is on record as saying that he never flew (and personally I have no doubt that he didn't) why do so many twats claim that he did?
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Twats?
Not at all.
THe evidence that he flew is exactly the same as the Wright's flights, though no picture was taken.
People saw him fly and paced out the distances, etc.
People saw him take off from level ground, fly hundreds of yards, then land again.
In May 1903 he flew about 900 yards, mostly out of ground effect and including two turns. If that's not sustained controlled flight I don't know what is.
He had no idea how to fly a plane - there was obviously no books on how to do so back then - So he would have said that it was hard to control.
How was your first flying lesson? Keep the Cessna perfectly under control? I didn't. I certainly couldn't have landed it by myself without hours oif practice, in a plane that's designed to have benign handling.
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If Pearce himself admitted that he never flew, how can anyone else claim that he did? That's what I don't understand.
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I'm still waiting for a satisfactory answer, all you Pearce fans. Or perhaps there isn't one?
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