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The local Bristol radio station is saying that there will be no viewing faciliies at Filton and the public should view from the Downs at Clifton. It is a pity that Filton can't make an effort.
They also stating Concorde will also be accompanied by a Spitfire.
Anybody know more?
They also stating Concorde will also be accompanied by a Spitfire.
Anybody know more?
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The spitfire would probably be the Rolls-Royce owned one, it would be nice if it happens.
SSD, in the TV interview after the last scheduled flights, after a bit of ribbing from an old mate, Bannister admitted that (and I paraphrase) "seeing as though this was my last landing of Concorde, I thought I'd do it twice!!"
I think the NY flight landed first!
SSD, in the TV interview after the last scheduled flights, after a bit of ribbing from an old mate, Bannister admitted that (and I paraphrase) "seeing as though this was my last landing of Concorde, I thought I'd do it twice!!"
I think the NY flight landed first!
I believe Filton will be allowing 3000 ticket holders in, see Evening Post for details.
I will be somewhere near there as I live 15 minutes from there and I have already booked the day off (Anyone fancy a drink after?).
I will be somewhere near there as I live 15 minutes from there and I have already booked the day off (Anyone fancy a drink after?).
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as u_e said, 3,000 people are being admitted to the Filton site, presumably any more would be unmanageable.
It is fairly built up with factories and housing abutting the eastern end of the field so not really much scope for a lot of spectators there. Of course, if the wind is out of the east she will land from the other (Severnside) end anyway.
I believe the best bet would be the Downs. It is a massive open space and the bird will overfly that area, which is next to the Avon Gorge, whichever landing direction is subsequently taken. Local police favour the Downs for spectators.
Local press reported that the Spitfire mentioned is the one owned by Rolls Royce.
It is fairly built up with factories and housing abutting the eastern end of the field so not really much scope for a lot of spectators there. Of course, if the wind is out of the east she will land from the other (Severnside) end anyway.
I believe the best bet would be the Downs. It is a massive open space and the bird will overfly that area, which is next to the Avon Gorge, whichever landing direction is subsequently taken. Local police favour the Downs for spectators.
Local press reported that the Spitfire mentioned is the one owned by Rolls Royce.
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SSD, in the TV interview after the last scheduled flights, after a bit of ribbing from an old mate, Bannister admitted that (and I paraphrase) "seeing as though this was my last landing of Concorde, I thought I'd do it twice!!"
No, it was definately the Edinburgh first (that bounced), followed by the 'round the bay' and lastly the NY. Bannister was flying the NY.
And it was far from Bannister's last Conc landing. He did Manchester (which I watched in person and was also a greaser), and I beleive he was also on the flight to Seattle (which of course included another NY landing). He may also do Barbados and Filton - time will tell.
I wonder if that was the last Conc landing for the 'Edinburgh' pilot? I hope not - I felt sorry for the guy and I hope he got another go before he hangs up his Conc headset for the last time.
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No, it was definately the Edinburgh first (that bounced), followed by the 'round the bay' and lastly the NY. Bannister was flying the NY.
And it was far from Bannister's last Conc landing. He did Manchester (which I watched in person and was also a greaser), and I beleive he was also on the flight to Seattle (which of course included another NY landing). He may also do Barbados and Filton - time will tell.
I wonder if that was the last Conc landing for the 'Edinburgh' pilot? I hope not - I felt sorry for the guy and I hope he got another go before he hangs up his Conc headset for the last time.
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Has Mike been in the LH seat on all of them, since and including the last Heathrow landing?
Mondays LHR-JFK had Paul Douglas (his boss actually) in the LH seat, with MB in the right.
...and Me many rows behind them enjoying my one and only chance to sample the old girl.
Awesome!!!
MerchantVenturer, If you further East than the factories (Rolls Royce) there is some common ground. There is a footpath of bush avenue and that is off gipsy patch lane. You will not see it landing as its the wrong side of the railway embankment but you should be in line with approach.
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...and Me many rows behind them enjoying my one and only chance to sample the old girl.
Fil - Glad you got a flight before it's too late. That would have been on Alpha Delta? I also had my one and only supersonic flight in her, August 1999. Not trans-atlantic (Manchester to Paris), but I did get the jump seat!
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Fil - Glad you got a flight before it's too late. That would have been on Alpha Delta? I also had my one and only supersonic flight in her, August 1999. Not trans-atlantic (Manchester to Paris), but I did get the jump seat!
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Thanks for that under_exposed.
I was thinking more in terms that there was no large open space for several thousand to gather and of course if the landings are in an easterly direction that day a position beyond the railway line would not enable anyone to see much.
However, if on the morning it is apparent that the landing will be in a westward direction your suggestion is certainly one to consider.
We do seem to have had more northeasterly, southeasterly and easterly winds this year than is normally the case.
I was thinking more in terms that there was no large open space for several thousand to gather and of course if the landings are in an easterly direction that day a position beyond the railway line would not enable anyone to see much.
However, if on the morning it is apparent that the landing will be in a westward direction your suggestion is certainly one to consider.
We do seem to have had more northeasterly, southeasterly and easterly winds this year than is normally the case.
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The departure to Barbados is particularly sad. Very few people are likely to see it there and , unless very expensively looked after and air conditioned, deterioration in the saline air will be rapid. The bets must be on it having to be expensively recovered from there by sea , or broken up locally, before many years have passed. Its surprising that it hanst gone to a major museum in Europe where it would have been seen by much larger numbers of people.
Also, although the Barbados operation produced good results it was much less historically and operationaly significant than BAs eastern route , initially to Bahrein and later, Singapore.
Also, although the Barbados operation produced good results it was much less historically and operationaly significant than BAs eastern route , initially to Bahrein and later, Singapore.
If the wind is the other way, nip down to Cribs causeway and then head towards Catbrain (wonderful name). There are fields on three sides of the runway at the western end, but they tend to be muddy (even in summer).
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A bit rubbish...
Concorde's arrival capped by thievery
Thursday, November 13, 2003
By JAMES WALLACE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER AEROSPACE REPORTER
When British Airways chief Concorde pilot Mike Bannister delivered one of the supersonic jets to Seattle's Museum of Flight last week, he spoke with pride about the world's fastest commercial jetliner and how he was leaving it in good hands.
But only a day or two after the delivery ceremony Nov. 5, a thief removed a very special "piece" of the Concorde that Bannister and his flight crew had deliberately left in the needle-nosed cockpit.
Removal of the flight engineer's cap occurred soon after the British Airways Concorde arrived last week at the Museum of Flight. The museum is hopeful about repair, calling this "another restoration project."
It was the British Airways cap belonging to flight engineer Trevor Norcott.
This was no ordinary cap left behind on a seat.
When the Concorde flies faster than sound, its airframe expands by design as friction heats the skin. As part of this expansion, a small gap opens next to the instrument panel at the flight engineer's station.
On the Concorde's flight to Seattle, Norcott placed his cap in that gap during the supersonic flight over Canada.
The gap closed tight around his cap when the plane slowed and the skin cooled.
The crew meant for it to remain there forever, for the public to see when they visit the Concorde.
With the end of the Concorde, British Airways has no more need for flight engineers. It is why Bannister decided it would be appropriate for Norcott to leave his cap behind as a personal touch.
But a day or two after the delivery ceremony, a thief took the cap. The person could not pull it out, so he or she cut it out.
Many people have been going in and out of the Concorde, from British Airways and the museum to grounds people at Boeing Field. They have been getting the plane ready for public display.
Not knowing who took the cap, the museum put the word out that no questions would be asked if it were returned.
It was. Anonymously.
But because the Concorde will not fly again, there is no way to place the cap back in the gap while the jet is streaking through the sky at 1,350 miles per hour.
And besides, the cap was cut or ripped out, not pulled out.
The museum says it will find a way to have the cap become part of the Concorde again.
"It's another restoration project," a spokesman said yesterday.
The museum is planning to have the Concorde ready for the public to view the inside beginning Nov. 28 -- with or without the cap.
Thursday, November 13, 2003
By JAMES WALLACE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER AEROSPACE REPORTER
When British Airways chief Concorde pilot Mike Bannister delivered one of the supersonic jets to Seattle's Museum of Flight last week, he spoke with pride about the world's fastest commercial jetliner and how he was leaving it in good hands.
But only a day or two after the delivery ceremony Nov. 5, a thief removed a very special "piece" of the Concorde that Bannister and his flight crew had deliberately left in the needle-nosed cockpit.
Removal of the flight engineer's cap occurred soon after the British Airways Concorde arrived last week at the Museum of Flight. The museum is hopeful about repair, calling this "another restoration project."
It was the British Airways cap belonging to flight engineer Trevor Norcott.
This was no ordinary cap left behind on a seat.
When the Concorde flies faster than sound, its airframe expands by design as friction heats the skin. As part of this expansion, a small gap opens next to the instrument panel at the flight engineer's station.
On the Concorde's flight to Seattle, Norcott placed his cap in that gap during the supersonic flight over Canada.
The gap closed tight around his cap when the plane slowed and the skin cooled.
The crew meant for it to remain there forever, for the public to see when they visit the Concorde.
With the end of the Concorde, British Airways has no more need for flight engineers. It is why Bannister decided it would be appropriate for Norcott to leave his cap behind as a personal touch.
But a day or two after the delivery ceremony, a thief took the cap. The person could not pull it out, so he or she cut it out.
Many people have been going in and out of the Concorde, from British Airways and the museum to grounds people at Boeing Field. They have been getting the plane ready for public display.
Not knowing who took the cap, the museum put the word out that no questions would be asked if it were returned.
It was. Anonymously.
But because the Concorde will not fly again, there is no way to place the cap back in the gap while the jet is streaking through the sky at 1,350 miles per hour.
And besides, the cap was cut or ripped out, not pulled out.
The museum says it will find a way to have the cap become part of the Concorde again.
"It's another restoration project," a spokesman said yesterday.
The museum is planning to have the Concorde ready for the public to view the inside beginning Nov. 28 -- with or without the cap.
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just shows that the rest of the world doesn't deserve any piece of the Concorde story ... we the people (the Brit people) should demand their return soonest - after all, they BELONG to the Biritsh public... BA only paid a token £1 for them! and YES I am mad that some oaf decided to ruin a piece of aviation history ... you can't tell can you? 
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Last Concorde T/O 26Nov 1120Z ?
In case anyone wants to know I believe the LAST Concorde Departure will be on:
Wednesday 26 November 2003, BA9020C 1120Z G-BOAF, from LHR to Filton, 1300Z; all times approx.
There is also alledged to be an earlier departure, G-BOAE, to Grantley Adams Airport, Barbados:
Monday 17 November 2003, 1120Z Departure from LHR - BA9093C.
I acknowledge source:
http://www.concordesst.com/retire/diary.html
I will be there for both.
I will never forgive BA.
[I make no apology for putting this back at the top.]
Wednesday 26 November 2003, BA9020C 1120Z G-BOAF, from LHR to Filton, 1300Z; all times approx.
There is also alledged to be an earlier departure, G-BOAE, to Grantley Adams Airport, Barbados:
Monday 17 November 2003, 1120Z Departure from LHR - BA9093C.
I acknowledge source:
http://www.concordesst.com/retire/diary.html
I will be there for both.
I will never forgive BA.
[I make no apology for putting this back at the top.]
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As an Aussie I can't forgive Rod's decision at BA.
Hey, we would have looked after one of them in Melbourne, more approp. than Barbados surely?!!
Sadly I never got to fly on one, closest I got was a few visits to the prototype at Duxford.
Well done Rod, you jumped ship at Ansett now look at BA - cutting tthe wrong costs perhaps...?
Hey, we would have looked after one of them in Melbourne, more approp. than Barbados surely?!!
Sadly I never got to fly on one, closest I got was a few visits to the prototype at Duxford.
Well done Rod, you jumped ship at Ansett now look at BA - cutting tthe wrong costs perhaps...?
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Did anyone catch the BBC Radio Five Live interview [ around 06:20 - 14th Nov]with a chap who claims that the French Concorde Crash report was a cover-up and that during the take-off a 747 was missed by 7 metres and that Concorde hit a runway marker before rotation? Only caught a section of the interview but apparently a publication is about to be released. Another conspiracy theory along with all the others? He also mentioned another French Concorde being scrapped at Dakar?after a heavy landing?
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