I reckon the 747 won in this round, looks like it managed to even take a bit of the 380 with it in the chompers there!

Insurance will cover any cost of repair over and above the excess/deductible. QF insurers will then fight it out with the handling company's insurers if the handlers weren't QF. Could add a complication if a QF LAE was supervising.


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I would doubt very much if QF self insure the A380 hulls, the older B747s maybe, it depends what the book value is, the B747 may have been written down to zero or near to it. They certainly won't self insure their third party liabilities, (billions of cover), or their passenger legal liabilities. They may self insure the staff PA scheme and possibly baggage claims but that would be about it.

The aircraft were and probably still are insured thru JLT (Jardine Lloyd Thomas)

One of the world’s leading experts in
aviation insurance and also the fastest
growing:
• Place around USD 1bn insurance
premium into the market
• Approx 23% share of the worldwide
airline market
• Track record of successfully handling
complex claims (e.g. Qantas 2010
A380 engine explosion)

Is "no habla ingles" on the part of the ground handlers potentially a factor here?

The ground handling agent will have their own liability insurance which would cover damage caused by them. If, on the other hand (and this parenthetical observation is purely hypothetical) they were acting under the direction or supervision of a QF employee or other party then it can obviously become a lawyer's feeding frenzy.

Good times!:ok:

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Quick fix on 747 VH-OEI - presently operating QF108 due into SYD Sunday morning.

A few rolls of silver tape and it's all good...


I herd it was Menzies driving, they love hitting !!!!, like when the virgin a330 ran over the jetstar a330 dude didn't even know until he towed it on line

I suspect that JLT are the holding broker in Australia and the bulk of the business will be a re-insurance through the London market.

Looks like they have passed their quality assurance in being able to replicate their process, done it again with a 767 and A330 at a different airport.

JLT are the brokers in London, it's not placed with JLT in Australia and the insurers are a panel of well known and established aviation insurance companies based in France, the UK and elsewhere in the world. All aircraft if the Qantas fleet are insured and all are subject to an excess. Excess varies according to type. Jet aircraft have what is called Deductible Insurance which lowers the excess to $100,000.

Qantas will claim on their insurers and they in turn will seek recovery from the ground handler's insurers subject to the limitations of the Ground Handling Agreement in place. Lawyers will be involved and it will go on for years.

indamiddle quote: "Fantastic timing, an A380 and a 747 had a clash of wing tips at LAX. A380 wing apparently looks it was attacked by a shark, 747 wing tip not flash either. Both flights cancelled. Let the conspiracy theories begin,"

Who cares?!! :rolleyes:

Old mate up in Brisvegas has heard there is a damaged "Qantas Group" A320 hiding in a hangar there. Something to do with ground handling. Rumour or trumour?


McHale.

they get punched all the time by the loaders

im not at work today, but ill find out on tomorrow from eng

so orange star a320 in BNE?

There's been a 320 nose poking out of Hangar 3 for about 3 days now.

Parked next to a JQ A330.

It did look kinda ironic seeing a QF hangar full of JQ aircraft! :ugh:

The 380 will be flying again before most of you have your next bonk! :ok:

Considering its due to land in SYD in approx 1.5hrs, I'd say you are right!

The a320 in bne was hit by a loader

Well at least there are plenty of spare A320s floating/sitting around. No doubt bonus's all round for having organised all those hot spares.