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#1AHRS 7th Dec 2002 19:53

I think the wind up excuse is just an attempt at backing out of a debate once you have made a fool of yourself.

RaTa 7th Dec 2002 20:51

Even though I work for the Rat, I can't say that I've noticed any Virgin taxi faster or slower than what is normal.
Having defended the opposition I'd better have a lie down as I can't be feeling well!!!;)

TIMMEEEE 7th Dec 2002 21:13

I've read alot on this topic as well as excellent factual/technical contributions which leads me to believe that the "fast walking pace" you speak of Bronte is purely a GA thing.
It only typically relates to a single/twin engine piston with props that hang as close to the ground as the stubbies of a football yobbo below his arse crack! (or cricket Yobbo in the case of L-Gold!).

Probably the longest distance in Oz to taxi is about 2 nm (Runway 34L/R in Sydney).
Taxying at 20 kts ( a respectable speed for a jet) will take about 6-8 mins (including turns/average stops/waits etc).

Kaptin M and Snowballs spoke of incidents related to high taxi speeds and the danger of adverse torsional (sideways) loads applied to landing gears when you taxi too fast around a corner.
Sit up there on a 747 and listen to the noise of the nosewheel when turning through a 90 degree taxiway at more than 10 kts groundspeed!
That's just the nosewheel and dont forget the other 4 bogeys (wing and body gears on each side!).

It's uncomfortable for pax,unsafe for the hosties standing up doing safety demo's down the back and downright unprofessional apart from stressing the gears/airframe and heating the brakes unnecessarily!

If a pilot wants to taxi slowly then thats his perogative Bronte.
To call it a joke is over the top and unprofessional in my book.

ironbutt57 7th Dec 2002 22:24

A historical moment here...one for the record books.Kaptin M and ironbutt57 in total agreement!!!!:confused: :) :) :)

Flying Spaniard 8th Dec 2002 00:01

If a kid of 16 would read the first few posts of this thread he would feel very welcome and at ease because the attitude reflected in these posts are the ones of a teenager fighting over a candy bar or how gets to sit in the front seat of a car.
Sometimes i really wander why people even reply to posts it gets personal all the time and make the forums an unpleasant place to be. stop the bashing, and the "yes it is" and "no it isn't" "if you dont agree you are a ****** and a bad pilot" games.
Please i ask you to be a little more mature in some posts and dont let it get personal!
And before you guys bash me for my numerous grammatical mistakes, learn 5 languages and lets see then how perfect that grammar is then.

Gnadenburg 8th Dec 2002 00:17

No problems with your grammar, Zorro!

Towering Q 8th Dec 2002 23:15

Count yourself lucky to have a Grammar....mine passed away in '83.

gaunty 9th Dec 2002 00:21

Maybe that's why QF insist on Physics, math etc.

I'll never forget the lesson taught me by Col Felton all those years ago when as a smarta&se 16 yr old he was attempting to instill some idea of flying and good manners at the hand of the Chipmunk.
Weight and Balance.....4 gallons what's the fuss....it's nothing...
Next time I'm due to fly dear 'ol Mrs Robbie tells me Col is waiting for me in the hangar.
Step through door to be met with "catch this" as full four gallon drum of water is hefted at me. Catch, stagger, fall on backside.
Lesson, drum was only moving as fast as one could heft (not very), consider the consequences at 10, 20 and 50 KTS. KE=mv2

liquid_gold 9th Dec 2002 00:40

Timmeeee,

Haven't you been flying with Bronte ??;)

eisle s 9th Dec 2002 04:28

Good point gauty, but I think KE= 1/2mv2:confused: :p

gaunty 9th Dec 2002 08:33

eisle s

I'm glad someone is awake.:rolleyes: :cool:

My excuse is that at high enough v's, 'm' becomes relatively insignificant in the overall equation; :D :p


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