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VH-FTS 29th Mar 2024 01:18

Alliance E190 taxi speeds
 
It's getting a bit of a joke how slow you all are taxiing. I'm talking long, wide, dry taxi ways too not corners or in the wet. 10 to 15 kt the whole time - is it that time of the month where you need to hit your productivity bonus hours? Bet Qantas are thrilled with how you're contributing to on time performance while slowing the rest of us down too.

Gnadenburg 29th Mar 2024 01:42

There’s a cost of living crisis mate! Have a little empathy.

ShandywithSugar 29th Mar 2024 02:18

VH-FTS Bravo Bravo :D

Slippery_Pete 29th Mar 2024 02:27

How are they paid? Actual block?

volare_737 29th Mar 2024 02:37

haha - Love it !!! In my defence I have to say I taxi at least at 25 to 30. But please understand most of us are old farts and need time to think !!!! :rolleyes:

chimbu warrior 29th Mar 2024 03:43

Perhaps they have a company-imposed taxi speed limit. If this is common amongst Alliance E190's then that could well be the case.

BO0M 29th Mar 2024 04:21

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chookcooker 29th Mar 2024 04:27

10kts wet? In a straight line? Bananas

Lapon 29th Mar 2024 04:30

But the big question is.... how bright are the Alliance taxi lights, and do they leave thier wing inspection lights on? :E

BO0M 29th Mar 2024 04:32

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VH-FTS 29th Mar 2024 11:32


Originally Posted by chimbu warrior (Post 11625574)
Perhaps they have a company-imposed taxi speed limit. If this is common amongst Alliance E190's then that could well be the case.

There's no way they're limited to 15 kt in a straight line in the dry. Adding 0.1 to each taxi must add up at the end of the month.

Chadzat 29th Mar 2024 11:49

Those who flew the ejet at VA may remember the design flaw in the nosewheel assembly that can shimmy/shudder the whole aircraft when the taxi speed is between 18-21kt (from memory). So you either had to be above or below that usually-ideal speed.

Who cares about OTP anyway? Thats some desk jockeys KPI, not a pilots!!

soseg 29th Mar 2024 11:53

Getting their total time up so they can apply for the majors.

bugged on the right 29th Mar 2024 16:25

15 kts in A300 would produce a rapid nosewheel bounce which would get lady pilots jiggling. So I heard.

DIBO 29th Mar 2024 20:15


Originally Posted by bugged on the right (Post 11625923)
So I heard.

No, no, it's scientifically proven: Men and women absorb vibration differently ;)

DeltaT 29th Mar 2024 20:25

Just because you can taxi fast doesn't mean you should.
Like most things in life, wait your turn, you aren't the only person on the planet.
If I want to take my damn time I will.

rodney rude 29th Mar 2024 21:29

Great attitude mate. I suppose you're the guy on the highway doing 80 with a funeral procession behind you.

CDRW 29th Mar 2024 21:35


Originally Posted by DeltaT (Post 11626026)
Just because you can taxi fast doesn't mean you should.
Like most things in life, wait your turn, you aren't the only person on the planet.
If I want to take my damn time I will.

Such a mature responce shown by a vastly experienced pilot who has flown the world (well WA and maybe a trip to NT to really get experience! )

morno 29th Mar 2024 22:24


Originally Posted by DeltaT (Post 11626026)
Just because you can taxi fast doesn't mean you should.
Like most things in life, wait your turn, you aren't the only person on the planet.
If I want to take my damn time I will.

Mate I can taxi a Cessna around at 30kts. If you can’t taxi a jet at 30kts maybe it’s time you hang up your boots and retire.

nomess 29th Mar 2024 22:41


Originally Posted by DeltaT (Post 11626026)
Just because you can taxi fast doesn't mean you should.
Like most things in life, wait your turn, you aren't the only person on the planet.
If I want to take my damn time I will.

Who said anything about taxiing fast?

We are talking about people who go SLOW.

and no, one isn’t the only person on the planet, they are one of MANY, who are all waiting behind you.

TBM-Legend 30th Mar 2024 00:24

In Australia dawdling on taxiways is the order of the day compared to the U.S., Canada, Asia

Still living in the Tiger Moth walking pace days.

soseg 30th Mar 2024 02:48

Guys, you’ll trigger all the zoomers who meow on guard.

cxflog 30th Mar 2024 03:58


Originally Posted by soseg (Post 11626129)
Guys, you’ll trigger all the zoomers who meow on guard.

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Flava Saver 30th Mar 2024 13:38

Whilst speaking of things slow…. How about a shoutout to the VA drivers given max speed to the field yet everyone behind them get profile, then 250, then bring it back to 220 because they didn’t wind it up. Here’s a thought! If ya not gunna put the pedal down, just say unable, and that your happy to join the back of the sequence thanks. Not all of us are building twin time. :)

MalcolmReynolds 30th Mar 2024 16:05


Originally Posted by rodney rude (Post 11626045)
Great attitude mate. I suppose you're the guy on the highway doing 80 with a funeral procession behind you.

Who cares? They're DEAD! It isn't an Ambulance!

Lead Balloon 30th Mar 2024 19:56

I think rodney was being metaphorical, not literal, malcolm.

rodney rude 30th Mar 2024 21:10

Thank you Leady. There's always one dullard isn't there.

DeltaT 31st Mar 2024 23:15

Ahh, the new generation of all knowing pilot skygods of Australia rises again, coming to an airport accident near you.

Mach E Avelli 1st Apr 2024 01:41

A long time ago I worked for an outfit that paid a base salary plus a revenue mile rate. Not too many time wasters in that operation. Paying block hour overtime and expecting OTP? Pigs may levitate.

morno 1st Apr 2024 02:28


Originally Posted by DeltaT (Post 11627173)
Ahh, the new generation of all knowing pilot skygods of Australia rises again, coming to an airport accident near you.

Just tell me again what is wrong with taxiing at 30kts and not holding every competent person up? :ugh:

rodney rude 1st Apr 2024 03:46

Hook up that caravan Delta! The highway awaits.

The Banjo 1st Apr 2024 07:37


Originally Posted by morno (Post 11627212)
Just tell me again what is wrong with taxiing at 30kts and not holding every competent person up? :ugh:

Well taxiing slower might give more headspace to prevent a runway incursion or a wingding when parking at a bay.

As we are all aware there is a lot of training happening with generally less experienced students so then slowing things down cannot be a bad mitigation.

morno 1st Apr 2024 08:08


Originally Posted by The Banjo (Post 11627282)
Well taxiing slower might give more headspace to prevent a runway incursion or a wingding when parking at a bay.

As we are all aware there is a lot of training happening with generally less experienced students so then slowing things down cannot be a bad mitigation.

I’m not saying you park on the bay doing 30kts FFS. And what possible runway incursion could you have on a parallel taxiway 🤦‍♂️

das Uber Soldat 1st Apr 2024 08:58

I like that we can argue about literally anything.

ScepticalOptomist 1st Apr 2024 09:03


Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat (Post 11627318)
I like that we can argue about literally anything.

Yep - being anonymous on a forum brings out the worst in people.

Wonder if anyone here would have the guts to ask someone in the terminal face-to-face about something so petty as their taxi speed.

WSSS 1st Apr 2024 09:33


Originally Posted by Chadzat (Post 11625788)
Those who flew the ejet at VA may remember the design flaw in the nosewheel assembly that can shimmy/shudder the whole aircraft when the taxi speed is between 18-21kt (from memory). So you either had to be above or below that usually-ideal speed.

Exactly this. The Ejet starts to shudder approaching 18 kts but sorts itself out after 20 kts. Don't know whether it's nose wheel design flaw or some kind of resonance, but once you break through 20 - 21 kts, the shuddering stops.

cxflog 1st Apr 2024 13:09


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11627321)
Yep - being anonymous on a forum brings out the worst in people.

Wonder if anyone here would have the guts to ask someone in the terminal face-to-face about something so petty as their taxi speed.

Absolutely zero because those around would just shake their heads at the shear stupidity of such a question.

framer 1st Apr 2024 20:03


Paying block hour overtime and expecting OTP? Pigs may levitate.
I have seen people joke bout slowing down because of block overtime but I have never seen anyone actually do it. Does it really happen?

​​​​​​​Guys, you’ll trigger all the zoomers who meow on guard.
Can anyone explain what that is about? Is it a private message between incels? Like a code to show solidarity?

Sameoldsameold 1st Apr 2024 22:40

Another pathetic thread full of self appointed aviation hero’s. Now they are cracking down on taxi speeds. Got to be taxiing at 30kts to be deemed proficient. We really are lucky to have such oversight and thanks for bringing it to our attention on pprune.

MikeHatter732 1st Apr 2024 22:51

Thankfully their one route out of Sydney keeps them off Tango down to 34R :}:}


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