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Last big ATC strike, I believe was in 1977. |
Best of Luck Ladies and Gentlemen.
It is about time you were properly recognised and remunerated. MCD |
Originally Posted by Ken Borough
(Post 11627744)
Was not that a strike by a mob called the PREI (technicians) rather than ATCOs?
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Originally Posted by 10JQKA
(Post 11627750)
Think u may be right. I think last serious ATC industrial action was early 1989 just before the pilots' strike.
January 1989 The Sydney ATC Dispute begins. Principal catalyst for action is lack of staffing requiring excessive use of overtime. 10 April 1989 Commissioner Sheather – Order that bans and limitations at Sydney and Melbourne be lifted immediately. 13 April 1989 CommissionerSheather decision – “Reasonable Overtime” - One overtime shift or other overtime up to a maximum of seven hours overtime in any fortnightly period. 28 June 1989 Justice Munro decision on “stand down”. History of case involved industrial activity at Mascot Airport. Approved CAA application for insertion of stand down clauses. 4 September 1989 Industrial Relations Commission Full Bench decision released on the Sydney dispute. In 1989 a restriction was placed on the number of consecutive shifts that ATCs could work (10 shifts), prior to that there was no maximum. This was inserted into the Enterprise Agreement, Airservices has been trying to get rid of this 10 shift limitation ever since. |
950 odd controllers, plenty to go round supposedly, shouldn't be too much of an issue getting an overtime ban approved as part of PIA then?
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So....they'll refuse to put out the fires that aren't there?
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I hope the ARFF get the substantial raise that they deserve and which is well overdue.
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Maximum 7 hr per fornight! 😆😆😆
So factor in that people are currently doing up to 30h OT per fornight - and there are STILL airspace closures almost every day, what do you think the effect of an OT withdrawal under PIA might be? |
TIBA and now this, can’t be doing good for the ICAO rating…
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Not sure why but mods have merged the ARFF and ATC thread into one which is weird and now confusing. I don't understand why this was done.
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Nor I.
It would be like merging two threads where one is talking about the QF Engineers industrial situation and the other is talking about QF pilots and their industrial situation. |
Moderator.
Please reconstitute the original separate threads |
Received this on 3rd April......
Hello 10JQKA Your thread "ARFF vote to take Protected Industrial Action against Airservices..." has been merged into to ATC vote to take Protected Industrial action against Airservices Australia. by our moderator team. We encourage you to continue your discussion in this new location. Thank you! |
It's a pre-emptive move by the mods in anticipation it going the way of most threads in here which run on a merry-go-around of Virgin to Qantas to Bonza to Rex and back again
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It would be so easy for AsA to avoid all of this.
Acknowledge the work their staff has done by simply paying them what they’re worth (industry standard, not unreasonable) without asking them to sacrifice conditions in return. Dealing with the continual and increasing short staffing, the increasingly complex workload, the worse and worse rosters etc is all the more manageable when you’re being compensated appropriately. In the meantime how many more have got their applications in for UAE / Oman / Germany etc? |
Originally Posted by Ken Borough
(Post 11627744)
Was not that a strike by a mob called the PREI (technicians) rather than ATCOs?
I wandered around the then "AMEN" looking at and in aircraft ..... |
Originally Posted by we_were_inverted
(Post 11628953)
It would be so easy for AsA to avoid all of this.
Acknowledge the work their staff has done by simply paying them what they’re worth (industry standard, not unreasonable) without asking them to sacrifice conditions in return. Dealing with the continual and increasing short staffing, the increasingly complex workload, the worse and worse rosters etc is all the more manageable when you’re being compensated appropriately. In the meantime how many more have got their applications in for UAE / Oman / Germany etc? |
What happened?
Did treating highly skilled people like **** and paying them peanuts not work out?! We’re closing airspace and towers because they can’t find staff now. Travelling public might be interested in the lack of safety at most regional airports now, and don’t mention the near miss I had at Sydney airport last year. We made the newspaper on that one (staff shortages and low time departure controller). How about some managers realise they actually need to pay people a liveable wage or they’ll go elsewhere. Same situation as Australian airlines. It’s not this hard. PAY people for their expertise and experience. |
Originally Posted by Gas Chamber
(Post 11629596)
What happened?
Did treating highly skilled people like **** and paying them peanuts not work out?! We’re closing airspace and towers because they can’t find staff now. Travelling public might be interested in the lack of safety at most regional airports now, and don’t mention the near miss I had at Sydney airport last year. We made the newspaper on that one (staff shortages and low time departure controller). How about some managers realise they actually need to pay people a liveable wage or they’ll go elsewhere. Same situation as Australian airlines. It’s not this hard. PAY people for their expertise and experience. It must also not be a liveable wage based on performance.delivered? Perhaps he will also go elsewhere? |
Perversely no one will listen until there is an actual accident. Near misses are seen viewed by our regulator as a successfully managed event with a safe outcome.
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