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Chris2303 11th Mar 2024 06:41

LATAM upset SYD-AKL Mon 11 Mar
 
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...ht-to-auckland

KiwiAvi8er 11th Mar 2024 07:05

A few articles are attributing the injuries to a “technical issue causing a strong movement” rather than turbulence. Will be interesting to see as some facts are released.

Chris2303 11th Mar 2024 07:09

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3502...d-crew-injured

framer 11th Mar 2024 08:16


Jokat said there was no turbulence after the incident and once the plane landed the pilot came to the back of the plane in “shock”.

“I asked ‘what happened?’ and he said ‘my gauges just blanked out, I lost all of my ability to fly the plane’.”
Stuff News

logansi 11th Mar 2024 08:27

Not sure of any truth, but rumor going around in a South American pilot group, is that the entire aircraft electrical system (including primary instruments, flight computers, lights, pax IFE, etc) went out for about 45 seconds and when systems came back online, there was a 'large, rapid, uncommanded' movement of the vertical stab.

nomess 11th Mar 2024 08:30

Faulty RPDU?

The FAA had a AD out around a decade ago from memory around generator failures. Be interested to see if the RAT was deployed

Might be another one for the FAA to look at. They might need to hire some more staff soon due to workload.

Lookleft 11th Mar 2024 08:39

Just another crap Boeing product. Very similar to a MAS 777 off the West Australian coast in 2005. That one was due to faulty software in the FT-ADIRU.

nomess 11th Mar 2024 08:52


Originally Posted by Lookleft (Post 11613095)
Just another crap Boeing product.

That really stands out when you look at the A350 program. Sure, Airbus didn’t get everything right, few issues about, but they did a damn good job and I’ve not seen such a flawless entry into service for a new type. It’s a brilliant machine also, crew and passenger favourite.

777X is the next problem child on the horizon. I don’t even need to check the crystal ball to tell me that is going to become a problem also.

Roo 11th Mar 2024 08:59


…there was a 'large, rapid, uncommanded' movement of the vertical stab.
More likely rapid elevator movement given passengers & cc encounters with the cabin ceiling.

Lost_in_the_regs 11th Mar 2024 09:10


Originally Posted by Lookleft (Post 11613095)
Just another crap Boeing product. Very similar to a MAS 777 off the West Australian coast in 2005. That one was due to faulty software in the FT-ADIRU.

If the uncommanded rudder inputs are right, the tongue in cheek comment would be if it was an Airbus the the tail would have fallen off!

Big Silver Spoon 11th Mar 2024 09:36

Or they didn’t recognise, confirm and breathe.

TWT 11th Mar 2024 09:57


Just another crap Boeing product
QF72 was an A330. Fortunately, events like that are rare.

The cause of the LATAM incident remains unknown at this stage.

DirectAnywhere 11th Mar 2024 10:07


Originally Posted by TWT (Post 11613144)
QF72 was an A330. Fortunately, events like that are rare.

The cause of the LATAM incident remains unknown at this stage.

Different incident. Locations were similar but Malaysian had an upset too. ATSB investigation number 200503722

TWT 11th Mar 2024 10:15

I'm very much aware of that DirectAnywhere ;). The comment stated that it was just another crap Boeing product.
I merely pointed out that Airbus products are not immune to problems.
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lucille 11th Mar 2024 11:25


Originally Posted by framer (Post 11613072)
Stuff News

So, no battery powered standby AHRS? Yikes! That’s what you’d call a catastrophe. But, but, but wait… everything resolved itself after a few seconds. Phew.. crisis averted, well other than the 50 pax jammed onto the ceiling enjoying their few seconds of zero G astronaut time.

All I’m saying is there’s more than meets the eye here.. not blaming hardware, not blaming crew.. let’s see what the FDR and CVR say.

ZFT 11th Mar 2024 11:55

I am amazed that despite all the requests, pax still don't leave seat belts loosely fastened. Would avoid all these unnecessary injuries.

Bosi72 11th Mar 2024 12:26


Originally Posted by logansi (Post 11613078)
Not sure of any truth, but rumor going around in a South American pilot group, is that the entire aircraft electrical system (including primary instruments, flight computers, lights, pax IFE, etc) went out for about 45 seconds and when systems came back online, there was a 'large, rapid, uncommanded' movement of the vertical stab.

Sounds like full system restart..

Mozella 11th Mar 2024 16:52

Am I the only one old enough to be thinking about the Captain turning around and yelling: CHECK ESSENTIAL!. ?

Xray4277 11th Mar 2024 18:29


Originally Posted by ZFT (Post 11613245)
I am amazed that despite all the requests, pax still don't leave seat belts loosely fastened. Would avoid all these unnecessary injuries.

My thoughts exactly...

Dora-9 11th Mar 2024 20:04


77X is the next problem child on the horizon.
Dunno where you get that from - the B777 also had a virtually flawless entry into service.


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