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nomess 12th Mar 2024 07:59

They seek very eager to get it moving. Will be interesting to see how much patience they have once they start dealing with CASA.

I hope they are aware that adding new types to a AOC here isn’t just a few months. 9-12 months if you have the house in order, 24 months if you have no idea. They will need considerable senior talent from Airbus local competitors to get this up and running.

Thirsty 12th Mar 2024 14:01

It's not like they are the first to attempt to break into the Australian airline industry, which is full of carcasses.of those with lofty ambitions and semi-deep pockets, turning billionaires into millionaires..

Luke SkyToddler 13th Mar 2024 00:19


Originally Posted by Thirsty (Post 11614142)
It's not like they are the first to attempt to break into the Australian airline industry, which is full of carcasses.of those with lofty ambitions and semi-deep pockets, turning billionaires into millionaires..

They're not looking to "break into the Aus airline industry". They're ACMI, they already own Avion Express and Smartlynx. They simply can't get enough EASA licenced pilots to fulfil their needs so they're starting new AOCs in Brazil, Thailand and now Australia it seems. All the pilots of all the subsidiary groups, will be going wherever in the world the wet lease contracts are.

HappyBandit 14th Mar 2024 22:07

I have a few questions about SkyTrans 3.0.

1) Will a new management team be implemented that can deal with Airbus operations?
2) Is there demand for more airbuses (even if the majority is freight ops)?
3) Will existing employees be given first right for application to the jets?
4) Is there an EBA or contract available?

Icarus2001 16th Mar 2024 01:05

1. They have installed a new manager. Look him up.

According to the newly appointed Managing Director of Skytrans, Gytis Gumuliauskas, while the company’s current activities will be continued, the main goal is to extensively develop ACMI and wet lease operations:
2.They must believe there is demand. They are trying to smooth out seasonal demand issues.

3. I would imagine current employees can apply just like anyone else. They are already advertising for A320 FOs. Better for a company to employ from outside with experienced jet crew initially as it eases the new type in to service and prevents a double training load to replace the crew changing type internally.

4. Difficult to imagine there being an EBA in existence to cover a type not yet introduced. My guess is they will adjust the offer based on the number and quality of applicants.

​​​​​​​All my opinions only, I have no inside knowledge just research about the new owner.

nomess 16th Mar 2024 04:06

Be very careful with promises. Be realistic folks, it’s at least a year away from getting moving, assuming they can do it in the shortest period, which Rex did in 9 months, and they had considerable talent from Virgin to launch that successfully.


Icarus2001 16th Mar 2024 05:54

I agree with you nomess but Avia Solutions Group is no newcomer. Have a look at their website to see the scope and depth of operations.
Their planned expansion they announced is very ambitious but it is doable if they have $$$ and good government connections who want it to happen.
So lets join the dots here, WHO would they operate the Airbuses FOR? They are not an airline, ACMI only.

https://aviasg.com/

nomess 16th Mar 2024 06:20

I think if you look at Nauru you will see there is plenty of work about, they have recently taken an -800 and have spent half the last year doing last minute ops for a Bonza, Solomon, and others, and have work locked in for the rest of year. Plenty of rolling work from operators in the islands also.

I don’t think the work is the issue, I have no doubt they will keep themselves busy, and will likely find contract work fairly quickly.

Getting CASA approval for a new type is the single biggest challenge they will face. They don’t like it when operators rush the process or set ambitious dates for startup. You can be the most experienced abroad in whatever you wish, the fact is, they are not as easy going as some of the regulators in Europe or South America.

I understand they are wanting to add the Airbus to the Skytrans AOC which is different from ACMI. I think SmartLynx already have a FATAOC here. The reason why they never used it, is due to the high cost of operating

Icarus2001 16th Mar 2024 06:28

Again, I do not disagree with anything you have said. Notwithstanding that, they could be operating by the end of this year. That gives them over nine months from now but we do not know how long a team has been writing an application, manuals etc. already. I assume type ratings can be undertaken by a sister company overseas, keeps it in house. Say three months, start date to line training. This gives time for induction, ground school and all the sim work. So if they employ pilots to start in September or October they would be ready to operate by the end of the year. They do not need an amended AOC with Airbus on it to get crew trained and ready.

nomess 16th Mar 2024 06:31

Correct. Crew can get type rated. It would be wise to get the Dash Crew type rated first, or the Caravan crew, as they can keep them employed on the other fleet until they need them. Jetstar and Bonza are currently taking Skytrans 208 Pilots, would be wise to stop that. You can probably say the 208s days are numbered.

Bonza had crew sitting around for 12 months.

Certainly is a few knowledgeable heads around the traps that could assist putting the documents and procedures together. I’m sure many know a recently available CP who has worked pretty much everywhere that might be of use.


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