Sure.....but it would be easier to send that message if the other East Coast Link operators hadn't caved and bent over.
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
(Post 11575046)
Not all manufacturing has been shutdown. Australia still manufactures red tape and non-gendered text.
Haha, very true. Have the company come back with any form of response to the latest (of 3) no vote? |
Give them a chance - management are still emerging from their Christmas hibernation. Nothing of substance happens anywhere until after 26th January.
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Originally Posted by Buttscratcher
(Post 11577111)
Sure.....but it would be easier to send that message if the other East Coast Link operators hadn't caved and bent over.
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Originally Posted by Buttscratcher
(Post 11577111)
Sure.....but it would be easier to send that message if the other East Coast Link operators hadn't caved and bent over.
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Not my point , BO0M.
I'm just saying that Qantas Link and Qantas mainline managers need a strong wake-up call from the all the folks who actually do the real work. |
Network Aviation currently recruiting outside the minimum requirements. Sub 1000 hour SEA drivers and no ATPL theory credit held.
Thoughts on the impact this will have on bargaining? |
Originally Posted by Mithzaron
(Post 11577579)
Network Aviation currently recruiting outside the minimum requirements. Sub 1000 hour SEA drivers and no ATPL theory credit held.
Thoughts on the impact this will have on bargaining? I’d say the biggest motivator the company has is that their clients are starting to get a bit twitchy and want this resolved yesterday, which is significant considering how much Pilbara transport matters to the Australian economy. |
I’d say the biggest motivator the company has is that their clients are starting to get a bit twitchy and want this resolved yesterday |
Originally Posted by framer
(Post 11577621)
How many mining charter flights are Network doing per week? Is that number forecast to increase or decrease?
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Originally Posted by framer
(Post 11577621)
How many mining charter flights are Network doing per week? Is that number forecast to increase or decrease?
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Originally Posted by Buttscratcher
(Post 11577575)
Not my point , BO0M.
I'm just saying that Qantas Link and Qantas mainline managers need a strong wake-up call from the all the folks who actually do the real work. Believe it or not the flights that were performed by east coast operators were apparently hard enough to crew as people were suddenly unwell. All pilots in OZ support (should) what's going on with Network and the pilots fight for better wages but Oz as a whole won't improve if ALL pilots don't quickly realise the fight is with companies not fellow workers. |
so about 30 flights a day that QF can’t really muck around with without running the risk of losing valuable business. They’ll have fun trying to crew them from other group airlines that’s for sure. From a business point of view you are as valuable if not more than any other QF pilot group at the moment.
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They don’t even have to do the strike action.
Just notify Fairwork that they plan to, wait for QF to move a bunch of mitigating assets (airframes and crew) to the west coast in the days prior - and then cancel the industrial action the night before. They’ve played groups against each other for so long now - perhaps it’s time the AFAP played the same game. It’s about to increase with a new contract they’ve just secured and the 319 arriving. From the cheap seats, that appears impossible unless they start reading the room and stop offering an agreement where people who work overtime only get half pay 😂 Any potential applicants to NAA are putting the final nail in their mainline aspirations. Internal group airlines are a career dead end. Better off going to Rex or a GA company for a few years and then joining mainline. Thoughts on the impact this will have on bargaining? |
Of course the scariest form of PIA for management doesn’t necessarily include strike action. Rejection of and defects/deferrals, rejection of any extension beyond originally rostered duty, rejection of any duty change, no tankering, no reduced thrust takeoff, rejection of visual approaches and/or track shortening…..the list goes on. All we need is for the AFAP to mount up and bring these IR thugs down a notch.
Keep going guys! |
Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete
(Post 11577677)
I think the impact on safety is much more important. Watch the contracts get cancelled en masse when this 750 hour experiment ends with a bent airframe. |
BO0M, I wasn't talking about the friggin' strike!
FFS, to put it plainly, I would have hoped all Q subsidiaries kept voting NO until these bloated pricks realise our worth. |
Originally Posted by walesregent
(Post 11577707)
Not even on their radar. To them safety and industrial issues have no overlap. If it’s approved by the regulator it will be good enough for them (and if it’s good enough for them it will get approved by the regulator).
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Originally Posted by walesregent
(Post 11577707)
Not even on their radar. To them safety and industrial issues have no overlap. If it’s approved by the regulator it will be good enough for them (and if it’s good enough for them it will get approved by the regulator).
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Any potential applicants to NAA are putting the final nail in their mainline aspirations. Internal group airlines are a career dead end. Better off going to Rex or a GA company for a few years and then joining mainline. |
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