YSSY single runway
For much of yesterday, 16/12/2023, Sydney was on single runway ops because of staff shortages.
Now, while this is just outragous, it was also...well...fine. Minimal delays, short taxis, less fuel burn/emmisions. While of course the bussiest airport in the country should be resourced to use all it's runways, it should also be run as efficiently as possible. Yesterday showed that sensible, tactical runway use based on demand, rather than politically mandated splitting, including one of the longest taxis in the world, is hugely preferable. It was an Emporers New Clothes moment, and it would be a shame if lessons weren't learnt. |
Any idea what the average ground delay was ?
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11557893)
For much of yesterday, 16/12/2023, Sydney was on single runway ops because of staff shortages.
Now, while this is just outragous, it was also...well...fine. Minimal delays, short taxis, less fuel burn/emmisions. While of course the bussiest airport in the country should be resourced to use all it's runways, it should also be run as efficiently as possible. Yesterday showed that sensible, tactical runway use based on demand, rather than politically mandated splitting, including one of the longest taxis in the world, is hugely preferable. It was an Emporers New Clothes moment, and it would be a shame if lessons weren't learnt. |
25 mins airborne
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11557893)
For much of yesterday, 16/12/2023, Sydney was on single runway ops because of staff shortages.
Now, while this is just outragous, it was also...well...fine. Minimal delays, short taxis, less fuel burn/emmisions. While of course the bussiest airport in the country should be resourced to use all it's runways, it should also be run as efficiently as possible. Yesterday showed that sensible, tactical runway use based on demand, rather than politically mandated splitting, including one of the longest taxis in the world, is hugely preferable. It was an Emporers New Clothes moment, and it would be a shame if lessons weren't learnt. |
Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11557893)
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Minimal delays, short taxis, less fuel burn/emmisions. . |
SYD (and MEL) ATC would do well to send a team over to LHR/FRA/MUC to learn a bit. They make mountains out of mole hills and could be a lot more efficient.
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Originally Posted by unobtanium
(Post 11557922)
longest taxi's in the world? Get out of you're little bubble it's not even close
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Originally Posted by ShandywithSugar
(Post 11557935)
25 mins airborne
Originally Posted by shortshortz
(Post 11557940)
So you think we should reduce Airservice staff numbers to be run Sydney more efficiently? yeah ok
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Originally Posted by T54A
(Post 11557960)
SYD (and MEL) ATC would do well to send a team over to LHR/FRA/MUC to learn a bit. They make mountains out of mole hills and could be a lot more efficient.
Seriously, the rosters are probably that tight that staff would be struggling to get their allocated holidays. NATS were in Sydney back 10 years ago and most (all) of their recommendations were not acted upon. After the introduction of the 3rd parallel runway, pre-LTOP report and I think it was from the Old Tower, we used to do 07 only on Saturday afternoons, weather permitting. Brought the crowds back. |
Originally Posted by T54A
(Post 11557960)
SYD (and MEL) ATC would do well to send a team over to LHR/FRA/MUC to learn a bit. They make mountains out of mole hills and could be a lot more efficient.
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11557988)
I said one of the longest.
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Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat
(Post 11558159)
Citation needed. Because I can't think of an airport in SE asia where I've operated that didn't have a taxi route longer.
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It was probably ‘fine’ because it was operated at a lower capacity with flights cancelled to fit into the movement quota.
If SYD ran the normal number of movements on 1 runway it would be at gridlock. |
Originally Posted by neville_nobody
(Post 11558318)
It was probably ‘fine’ because it was operated at a lower capacity with flights cancelled to fit into the movement quota.
If SYD ran the normal number of movements on 1 runway it would be at gridlock. |
It was probably ‘fine’ because it was operated at a lower capacity with flights cancelled to fit into the movement quota. |
Originally Posted by T54A
(Post 11557960)
SYD (and MEL) ATC would do well to send a team over to LHR/FRA/MUC to learn a bit. They make mountains out of mole hills and could be a lot more efficient.
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11558310)
I'm glad you've found the most critical part of my post. The ten odd minutes per arriival and departure added taxiing to the eastern runway are irrelevent because there's somewhere eles that's twelve. Thanks for putting me straight.
The longest taxi route at YSSY is 5.2km. Narita has a taxi route thats 9.5km long. Osaka, 7.5km. Singapore I've taxied DOUBLE the YSSY distance, over 10.5km when departing off 02R. 10.5x2=12 right? There is nothing special about Sydneys taxi route. |
The difference between a 34L and 34R taxi is only 2-3 minutes. Are we seriously complaining over 2 minutes?!
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Originally Posted by VHOED191006
(Post 11558411)
The difference between a 34L and 34R taxi is only 2-3 minutes. Are we seriously complaining over 2 minutes?!
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