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Wizofoz 9th Nov 2023 22:43

Airwork/Texel/Toll
 
Seems like the shoe has dropped- Airwork has lost the Toll contract, being taken over by Texel.
You can only try and make relic 50 year old jets work for so long, They should have upgraded their fleet years ago.

PoppaJo 9th Nov 2023 22:58

They waited until the old rust buckets got grounded with cracks, then the light bulb moment came ‘oh perhaps let’s order some -800Fs’

Oh that’s right it’s a multi year wait for those at the moment. Fools.

TBM-Legend 9th Nov 2023 23:23


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11536381)
They waited until the old rust buckets got grounded with cracks, then the light bulb moment came ‘oh perhaps let’s order some -800Fs’

Oh that’s right it’s a multi year wait for those at the moment. Fools.

….not so I’m aware of some -800SF and BCF freighters available

Wizofoz 10th Nov 2023 00:28


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 11536388)
….not so I’m aware of some -800SF and BCF freighters available

But it meant that Toll had the choice of a provider who was not meeting service delivery requirements, but might if, at dsome stage, it upgraded it's fleet, and one that HAD the fleet and was ready to go.
Airwork could have gotten -800 stock frames for a song two years ago, and been up and running iwth them now. Thet chose to milk the last drop from the classics and now have so much scap.

TBM-Legend 10th Nov 2023 02:12


Originally Posted by Wizofoz (Post 11536418)
But it meant that Toll had the choice of a provider who was not meeting service delivery requirements, but might if, at dsome stage, it upgraded it's fleet, and one that HAD the fleet and was ready to go.
Airwork could have gotten -800 stock frames for a song two years ago, and been up and running iwth them now. Thet chose to milk the last drop from the classics and now have so much scap.

Nauru Airlines just added a recently converted -800SF that they purchased from GA Telesis

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 10th Nov 2023 02:49

Have they lost the whole contract? Texel only have 2 airframes and only one of them just relocated to AUS. They've only taken over the runs that Air Nauru were doing.

DeltaT 10th Nov 2023 11:49

Texel have deep pockets from Bahrain, as well as more planes back there, whether they are spare or not is another question, but they can probably sort that out quick

markis10 10th Nov 2023 18:47


Originally Posted by DeltaT (Post 11536685)
Texel have deep pockets from Bahrain, as well as more planes back there, whether they are spare or not is another question, but they can probably sort that out quick

Texel have OK-SBK at CAN pending conversion and I suspect the former VH-VOQ (VP-cJA) stored at ASP after conversion is earmarked for them.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 10th Nov 2023 22:59

ASL (new Pionair owners) have a 738F earmarked for Aus as well.

According to Planespotters, Texel in Bahrain have 5 airframes, a 300, two 700's and two 800's. Unless they have no work there, I can't see them having the ability to take over much else of Airworks jobs at the moment. Airwork have 3 in BNE at any one time, let alone the other 13 scattered around.

markis10 11th Nov 2023 06:19


Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was (Post 11537023)
ASL (new Pionair owners) have a 738F earmarked for Aus as well.

According to Planespotters, Texel in Bahrain have 5 airframes, a 300, two 700's and two 800's. Unless they have no work there, I can't see them having the ability to take over much else of Airworks jobs at the moment. Airwork have 3 in BNE at any one time, let alone the other 13 scattered around.

Texel Australasia have three aircraft locally with plans to go to ten in the next three years,

logansi 11th Nov 2023 06:28

I'm told that they are taking over the Toll routes Nauru have been doing initially.

Zinfandel 11th Nov 2023 08:32


Originally Posted by markis10 (Post 11537105)
Texel Australasia have three aircraft locally with plans to go to ten in the next three years,

They only have 2 -800s locally. The -300 was sent back just after their first -800 arrived. Apparently a third -800 is due early 2024.




WOOLLY 12th Nov 2023 01:04


Originally Posted by Wizofoz (Post 11536378)
Seems like the shoe has dropped- Airwork has lost the Toll contract, being taken over by Texel.
You can only try and make relic 50 year old jets work for so long, They should have upgraded their fleet years ago.

Are you 100% certain it's Texel? Information on who is taking over from Airwork is very secretive at this stage.

palauisland 12th Nov 2023 06:44

Texel looking to recruit direct entry captains for next year, so if your overseas and want a change in lifestyle with a Brisbane base then get your CV in asap assuming you have time on the 800.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 12th Nov 2023 08:34


your overseas and want a change in lifestyle with a Brisbane base
A nine to five job. 2100-0500 that is.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 12th Nov 2023 08:43


They've only taken over the runs that Air Nauru were doing.

​​​​​​​I'm told that they are taking over the Toll routes Nauru have been doing initially.
..or you could have read it somewhere :)

I'd think ASL is more the danger for the NZ freight operators. They have the resources (121 737's worldwide across multiple companies) and deep pockets to go hard if they wanted to.

Sandbunny69 12th Nov 2023 08:55

Looks like it. Having a hard time getting staff in Auckland due to lower pay compared to others.

Wonder how they will convince people to join specially in Oz.

3 Holer 12th Nov 2023 23:34

Hey WIZ, bring back the 727F's with the new "green", hush kitted JT8s and fly them for another 50 years!! :)

framer 13th Nov 2023 03:01

I’d take a pay cut to fly a 727.

markis10 27th Nov 2023 05:58

Looks like Texel are adding another bird, VP-CJA just landed at BNE after spending time in ASP after conversion, former VH_VOQ


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