Jetstar Boeing 787 refurb
 

Just saw this one, Jetstar has announced a “multi-million dolllar“ refurb for its 788 fleet. New business & economy seats, wi-fi, plus “lie-flat crew rest areas, enabling longer flights” to US west coast, India, Sri Lanka and Africa. New cabin config will be 44J + 281Y. Work will take place “during scheduled aircraft maintenance from late 2025.”

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...-refurbishment

Does longer routes mean more airframes required?

I’m really not sure why a LCC such as Jetstar requires more business class seats when the parent company is a full service carrier…

The seats arent "business", its more a premium ecnomy product and fits well with the LCC model for JQ. loads are full and they are making money.
They dont have any option other than to invest in their widebody for the mid-life refurb as no one wants to buy a first gen 787-8 with no crew rest while many airlines are scrapping them.
XLR will take over most 787 routes with maybe their own premium economy, but yes they definetly need 3+ more frames

Ever tried to staff travel on it? It's never free it's always booked out. It obviously makes $$..
Plus the aircraft is probably too heavy to do longer routes with the current seating configuration. ( I'm guessing, I wouldn't know I don't fly it)
JQ "business" for a premium Econ style product on a LCC is actually pretty good. It's much better than scoot etc.
My question is how you can operate with enough frequency to service India, Jo'burg etc plus the current network with so few aircraft. Apart from DPS, the XLR will probably do CNS to NRT/KIX but can't see it replacing SIN/ HKT/ BKK etc.
Its good news for the 787 crews. Puts to bed the 787s will be sold off rumours.

The reality is they are highly unattractive, which is why they struggled a few years ago attempting to do so. Early models, -8, no crew rest, extensive engineering past, wing paints required, D checks required.

You won’t be seeing another D check after this upcoming one is completed. This will be the last run before they hit the vending machines.

OMG! 325 people on a 787-800? Please someone kill me if I ever book a long haul flight on 800 with that many seats! Do they take out the galley’s and lavs? United seats 218 and coach is not exactly generous!

Lucky for you, there’s no such thing as a 787-800, so you’ll be spared such an atrocity.

I heard numerous times during covid the Jetstar B787 will never fly again or otherwise go back to Qantas. 🤣 especially once the NEO arrives.

I never believed them but no point arguing with some know it all's 😁

Please tell me again what will happen or maybe I can paste some quotes 😅

Is the crew rest just for pilots? Or is there beds for CC too

You mean , just published this.

Well do you blame them at the time?

A 787 fleet that never made money. A fleet that was partially put up for sale in 2019. A fleet that has been littered with engineering issues. Approaching D checks.

Covid was the perfect time to dispose of them. The saving grace, in today’s green earnings from the fleet, is that nobody wanted them.

The reality is the group is stuck with them until scrap, any future downturn or global event, they will be the first fleet to be scrapped.

Will anyone be held responsible for ordering them without a crew rest in the first place? I wonder if the increased J class will score an additional toilet.

Didn't they initially pay extra to have the crew rest removed as it was a standard boeing fitment?

I would have thought these would be a suitable replacement for the Qantas domestic A330s, at least 10yrs younger, great for east-west flying. But I guess the gradual Jetstar takeover of Qantas shows no signs of abating even after Joyce.

Yes, paid in full to Dixon. $4.1m bonus when he ordered them in 2005.

Some people always preach doom and gloom, create drama and apparently know everything.

The same type of people who said covid was the end or the world as we knew it.

Suppose you don't blame them here either ?

Sounds to me like they’re just getting the jets ready for their handover to mainline :p

Handover to NJS or NAA you mean…

I get your point but the fact was back then, a quarter of the -8 fleet was put up for sale. It was certainly no trade secret around the group that the Jetstar 787 operation was not performing.

The market has since shifted due to an unprecedented global event, International ops are currently margin rich, unlike ever seen before. Remains to be seen how long those margins will hold, it does appear people have shifted discretionary spend away from retail, and into travel.