Qantas, Alan Joyce’s personal play thing.
BREAKING Qantas unveils ‘Yes23’ livery for three planes, reaffirms support for VoiceA key detail will be added to several Qantas planes as the national carrier backs in the Voice to parliament.Courtney Gouldless than 2 min read August 14, 2023 - 11:11AMNCA NewsWire Yes campaigners believe the road to referendum success for an Indigenous Voice to Parliament is to doorknock on a quarter of a million homes by… Qantas boss Alan Joyce has confirmed the national carrier is supporting the Voice to parliament, unveiling special livery on three aircraft and free flights for key Yes campaigners. The airline chief revealed the planes with the Yes23 campaign logo alongside Prime Minister Anthony Albanese at Sydney Airport on Monday morning. Mr Joyce said the carriers support for the Voice continued the national carrier’s long commitment to reconciliation. “We’re supporting the Yes23 campaign because we believe a formal voice to government will help close the gap for First Nations people in important areas like health, education and employment,” he said. “Like our Flying Art livery aircraft showcasing First Nations culture to a global audience, these aircraft will send a message of support for a Yes vote as they travel the country. “We know there are a range of views on this issue, including amongst our customers and employees, and we respect that. I encourage people to find out more, to listen to First Nations voices, and to make their own decisions.” The livery will be carried on three aircraft: a Qantas Boeing 737, a QantasLink Dash 8 Turboprop and a Jetstar Airbus A320 |
make their own decisions. |
I'm a "Yes" supporter but getting involved in politics is an insult to the intelligence of QF's passengers and shareholders. Whatever next? Can't imagine AA having "Vote Trump" or BA "Remain" plastered over their aircraft. Stick to your product Qantas - the CEO is entitled to his views but I really don't want to know.
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If like Virgin in a previous life when it was owned by Branson he can do what ever he wanted it was his train set. This one doesn’t belong to Joyce or the board and it’s not as if it’s a pillar of our society. It survived because of tax payer generosity which hasn’t been returned , it gouges on price, it has poor service yet it try’s to take the high moral ground and lecture the public. Makes me want to puke.
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Al: Thanks for blocking QR the other week Albo, gives us time to renew our tired fleet.
Albo: No worries Al, say can you do us a favour and paint "YES" on a cuppla aircraft? Al: Sure, Albo, anything for you. How's Nate enjoying the CC? Albo: Bonza Al, pardon the pun! |
If Joyce thinks the answer is YES, I automatically think I will vote NO.
Albanese is on the WRONG horse again. |
We await the Joe Aston masterpiece…
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Same boat as you Max TOW. I'm leaning towards a yes vote.
I do not think it's appropriate for a listed company to speak for all of its holders on an issue that has nothing to do with running an airline. TBH, it's likely a case of virtue signalling by Joyce. edit. I wonder how it will look when it likely fails to pass. A majority of voters and a majority of states is a tall order. And without both sides supporting any referendum, passing is even harder. |
The trouble for corporations in our increasingly binary society is that if you don't climb on the populous boat, you are automatically slagged as a villain. While I don't agree with this at all, for the same reasons as mentioned, if a corporation does not side with the vocal minority, the mudslinging that it's because they are a racist/bigot/misogynist (insert appropriate slur) is too damaging to ignore. There is no longer any grey areas in debate these days. You are for us or are the enemy. It's no longer safe for a corporation (or anyone for that matter) to say they do not, or should not have an opinion. If they do not, then why not, and God help them it they have the wrong one (according to the aforesaid very vocal minority).
we believe....will help close the gap for First Nations people in important areas like health, education and employment |
Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
(Post 11484381)
. It's no longer safe for a corporation (or anyone for that matter) to say they do not, or should not have an opinion. If they do not, then why not, and God help them it they have the wrong one (according to the aforesaid very vocal minority).
Ironically, I feel that until Qantas focuses on restoring its own tarnished brand image, plastering its "corporate opinion" on the aircraft is probably counter-productive to helping the "Yes" vote anyway. |
Virtue signalling from a company that is already on the nose for many Australians is going to do absolutely nothing for the Yes cause.
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As someone who is indigenous and of the Bun Wurrung people I will be voting no.
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While I know everyone likes a Qantas/Joyce pile-on, it’s worth noting that they are hardly out on their own here.
A survey by The Australian Financial Review found 14 of the current top 20 companies are publicly supporting the Voice, including the big banks, Transurban and resources giants BHP, Rio Tinto and Newcrest. |
Just reached Platinum status on QF, but I’ll use the points on AA from now on. Bye Qantas, you’ve lost the plot.
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Originally Posted by soseg
(Post 11484400)
As someone who is indigenous and of the Bun Wurrung people I will be voting no.
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Originally Posted by dejapoo
(Post 11484406)
Why's that SOSEG? Genuinely interested. Not being a smart ar$e. What about welcome to countries, smoking ceremonies, basket weaving at HQ, do Aboriginal's as a whole think it's doing more harm than good, or is it just a massive eyeroll? Again I can assure you I am being respectful and not taking the pi$$.
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Originally Posted by brokenagain
(Post 11484398)
Virtue signalling from a company that is already on the nose for many Australians is going to do absolutely nothing for the Yes cause.
Frustratingly I suspect for the yes camp, a referendum is exactly the time when the silent majority get's a voice. Ah, the irony. |
I’m glad Joyce did this, I’m a strong no voter to this referendum and the more you shove it down people’s throats while delivering a **** product in your core business which is aviation. The more you will pi$$ people off and make them vote no, thanks again for helping the No vote Allan.
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I was horrified listening to the News this afternoon. Joyce has struck again, but more than that he actually lied on the broadcast. Qantas (and in particular Joyce) should concentrate on operating what was once a great airline. Making a 'political' statement by endorsing a contentious referendum, and actually having some of Qantas aircraft being painted in the "Yes to the Voice" colours are an absolute disgrace. Doesn't matter if you are for or against, Qantas should not be getting involved in politics that have absolutely nothing to do with operating an Airline. As for his statement, "We are the oldest continuous operating Airline in the World." That's just an outright lie, or did I miss a news statement that KLM has ceased operating. I hope KLM sues him personally. The sooner he leaves Qantas, the sooner it may be able to get back to being a great Airline that it was in the 70's when I worked for them and was proud to wear the uniform. It will be interesting to see how many people his latest 'mistaken idea' will be driven away from Qantas. Paul
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It amazes me how someone who despises his employees and the working class can be such a massive proponent of such a left wing agenda.
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Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink
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It amazes me how someone who despises his employees and the working class can be such a massive proponent of such a left wing agenda.
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
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We await the Joe Aston masterpiece…
……except it’s about the No campaign, and he’s absolutely torn into them. |
Another great video worth listening to
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Originally Posted by ampclamp
(Post 11484376)
I do not think it's appropriate for a listed company to speak for all of its holders on an issue that has nothing to do with running an airline. QANTAS unveils a new Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander special livery |
Originally Posted by pppdrive
(Post 11484425)
I was horrified listening to the News this afternoon. Joyce has struck again, but more than that he actually lied on the broadcast. Qantas (and in particular Joyce) should concentrate on operating what was once a great airline. Making a 'political' statement by endorsing a contentious referendum, and actually having some of Qantas aircraft being painted in the "Yes to the Voice" colours are an absolute disgrace. Doesn't matter if you are for or against, Qantas should not be getting involved in politics that have absolutely nothing to do with operating an Airline. As for his statement, "We are the oldest continuous operating Airline in the World." That's just an outright lie, or did I miss a news statement that KLM has ceased operating. I hope KLM sues him personally. The sooner he leaves Qantas, the sooner it may be able to get back to being a great Airline that it was in the 70's when I worked for them and was proud to wear the uniform. It will be interesting to see how many people his latest 'mistaken idea' will be driven away from Qantas. Paul
KLM did not operate during WW2. That’s why he said… Continuous Operating Airline. And he should stay out of politics |
Originally Posted by MikeHatter732
(Post 11484442)
Exactly! Imagine AJ was this progressive with industrial relations!
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Yep, that’s made my mind up for me now.
voting NO And I’m a shareholder. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11484485)
KLM did not operate during WW2. That’s why he said… Continuous Operating Airline.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
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KLM did not operate during WW2. That’s why he said… Continuous Operating Airline.
And he should stay out of politics |
They'll turn customers away
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Originally Posted by CaptainInsaneO
(Post 11484529)
They'll turn customers away
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Vote No. Unless you want to see us as a country go back to the 1950's being divided and you're hip pocket to get much smaller. Just a another gravy train for inner city ones claiming to be marginalised gaining off Australian tax payers via a blank cheque.
This QF stunt will only help the No surely. |
I agree. Shameful; behavior from a CEO. I am no longer an ambassador for the Airline I once flew for. Stick with running an airline not this crap.
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Remember when Joyce marginalised Non Vaccinated people during Covid 19 , he's doing the same for the Non Aboriginals .
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I hope VA have a lot of excess capacity,they are going to need it.These virtue signalling inner city elites have no idea how the ethos of the REAL Australians works.We do not like having anything forced down our throats.Especially how to vote.This could be Qantas’ Bud Light moment.
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I looked into my porridge this morning and Alan Joyce was looking back at me, I looked into my cup or tea and Alan Joyce was looking back at me, I went to the toilet and looked into the bowl and Alan Joyce was looking back at me, and so on for the rest of the day. He is everywhere in my life! But his job is to run an airline! How can he be so pervasive in my life when his job is to run an airline? Don’t worry, although I cannot erase him from my life I have my own form of revenge. For ten years all overseas flights on Singapore Airlines. All domestic flights on Virgin Australia. You may be invading my conscious mind, but I am trying to make sure you do not profit from your invasive, intrusive, and egotistical views on my personal thoughts. I am sure like a number of retired politicians you will continue to promote your personal narrative once you retire from Qantas but from my perspective I will continue to see you in my toilet bowl and decide whether it is number one or two which you will be receiving on each occasion!
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What’s even more concerning is how the thought police (HR) in Qantas will ensure that any internal debate on this matter is squashed. How this mob controls all facets of recruitment to propaganda and social media under Joyce is ruining the culture within Qantas. They over step often outside the bounds of law. Company speak social commentary bullying entangled in capitalist hypocrisy. Does Alan have his eye on a political future. His ego won’t allow him to ride off into the sunset never to be heard of again.
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Pretty funny waisting time on this ****e while half the Pilots in the group are about to start industrial action after having their pay and conditions torn to shreds by QF IR. They are starting to look like the people having a fancy dinner on the Titanic while someone is yelling "iceberg dead ahead" in the background.
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Originally Posted by dragon man
(Post 11484354)
If like Virgin in a previous life when it was owned by Branson he can do what ever he wanted it was his train set.
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the national carrier May have been the case years ago before privatisation |
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