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73qanda 27th May 2023 22:41

Post Covid staff bonuses
 
It has been announced that 100,000 Emirates Airline staff will receive 24 weeks bonus pay this year as a way of keeping them at the airline.
Singapore Airlines followed suit but raised it to 8 .5 months salary as a bonus for eligible staff.
Does anyone here know if Air New Zealand or Qantas or Virgin Australia are looking at staff bonuses to help secure their staff numbers?
Just asking because I’d like a JetSki.
Cheers

A320 Flyer 27th May 2023 22:52

Qantas are “maybe if we cook the books right this year” giving a share bonus. When sold at the current price works out to be about 2 weeks SO pay.

gordonfvckingramsay 27th May 2023 23:02

Australian airlines are still smoking their belief that pilots will want to live and work here. Rather than trying to keep staff happy by conceding that it’s the coal face that makes the company function, and sharing the spoils of OUR hard work accordingly, they run with the established dogma. We won’t see much more than a half hearted thanks in the form of some, soon-to-be devaluing shares.

dragon man 27th May 2023 23:52

Plus the Qantas bonus is flat rated for blue collar staff that is they all get the same except of course the elite managers who are rewarded as a % of their grossly over inflated salaries.

gordonfvckingramsay 28th May 2023 00:09

To look for something positive in this, at least the bonuses being paid OS will make all of those ex-pats supposedly bursting to come back to the “lucky country” and fly for our national carrier(s), think twice.

donpizmeov 28th May 2023 00:30


Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay (Post 11441678)
To look for something positive in this, at least the bonuses being paid OS will make all of those ex-pats supposedly bursting to come back to the “lucky country” and fly for our national carrier(s), think twice.

One of the joys of the free job market is you dont have to stay at your employer if you dont like it. Lots of well paid jobs going around the world at the moment for those that want them. A good way to see the world when LAX and LHR become a drag.
There is life away from the sheltered workshop if you feel the need.
I dont have any expat friends looking at QF. I think the influx of fellas made redundant after covid is over.

Transition Layer 28th May 2023 00:36


Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay (Post 11441678)
To look for something positive in this, at least the bonuses being paid OS will make all of those ex-pats supposedly bursting to come back to the “lucky country” and fly for our national carrier(s), think twice.

Don’t you mean “national carrier(s) underpaid subsidiaries”.

dr dre 28th May 2023 02:24


Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay (Post 11441678)
To look for something positive in this, at least the bonuses being paid OS will make all of those ex-pats supposedly bursting to come back to the “lucky country” and fly for our national carrier(s), think twice.

A bonus doesn’t keep people on a job. On the contrary I’ve known people to wait for a bonus, or backpay to appear in their bank account and resign the next day.

Ollie Onion 28th May 2023 04:04

Sadly when we do get a bonus it is 6% of salary multiplied by a customer satisfaction score for which we have NO control over, so our bonus gets reduced due to **** management of OTP factors that we don’t have any sway over,

soseg 28th May 2023 04:59


Originally Posted by 73qanda (Post 11441656)
Just asking because I’d like a JetSki.
Cheers

Sorry bro. No Aussie pilots will be seeing this any time soon. Race to the bottom here.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c1c764925.jpeg

Australopithecus 28th May 2023 05:04

Just curious DrDre…whydo you consistently argue the company line ? Are you an actual pilot with a self-loathing problem or just another company shill trolling for profit?

Deano969 28th May 2023 06:33


Originally Posted by soseg (Post 11441721)
Sorry bro. No Aussie pilots will be seeing this any time soon. Race to the bottom here.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c1c764925.jpeg

The girl on the front has weird ankles
Just saying

dctPub 28th May 2023 06:58


Originally Posted by Australopithecus (Post 11441724)
Just curious DrDre…whydo you consistently argue the company line ? Are you an actual pilot with a self-loathing problem or just another company shill trolling for profit?

Just "pLaYiNg ThE DeViLs AdVoCaTe Huuurr Duuurr"

PoppaJo 28th May 2023 08:14

If you asked for a multi month bonus they would then say the business is now unviable and in terminal decline because of these demands. That is the same card they play each time a new agreement is up for negotiation and the braindead unions here fall for it.

Any executive who suggests to give the good front line staff bonuses or shares without any conditions attached will be sacked. Just like recent agreements, vote it down and you can forget about those bonus or share payments.

What would Sharpie say if his good pilots went to him for small slice of these big flashy unaudited profits he is reporting to the market each month? Just imagine all the conditions he would attach to a 5 dollar bonus.

pointyendforward 28th May 2023 08:48


Originally Posted by Deano969 (Post 11441741)
The girl on the front has weird ankles
Just saying

Yup, positively disgusting.

gordonfvckingramsay 28th May 2023 10:14


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11441702)
A bonus doesn’t keep people on a job. On the contrary I’ve known people to wait for a bonus, or backpay to appear in their bank account and resign the next day.

True. However, the way large companies treat their staff has bred a mercenary mentality amongst said staff. If the company continues to devalue the work put in by the workforce, as they do at every opportunity, the workforce will naturally seek short term gains to recover their T&Cs.

Australopithecus 28th May 2023 14:30

As a colleague said today when speaking of our employer's attitude towards us: “You keep treating me as a liability so now I am going to act like one”

aussieflyboy 28th May 2023 21:07

Exactly what’s happening at the rat. I’d guess fuel carriage has increased by 10-15 % and people are doing what the have to do to improve personal productivity at the expense of QF. Depending on what company you work for that could mean increasing Cost Index to go home earlier or finding a way to delay a flight to increase DTA or fall into a meal allowance bracket.

Ollie Onion 28th May 2023 21:22

From what I see people just go sick to adjust their rosters and not bother with bidding etc. I haven't seen anyone take 'more' fuel but there is no doubt people have lost all sense of loyalty from both sides. A Captain said to me last week 'they treat me like a low cost employee so I act like one'.

TBM-Legend 28th May 2023 23:22

Better pay back the Australian taxpayers first. Same for Rex


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