Texel air starting up at Auckland
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Looks like a certain NZ based freight only operator has got some competition.
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Originally Posted by Zinfandel
(Post 11389106)
Looks like a certain NZ based freight only operator has got some competition.
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B737-800BCF does not have ETOPS. Trans-Tasman could be interesting
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The 737-800 freighter conversions, depending on who did them, have 180 mins ETOPS.
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Originally Posted by kitchen bench
(Post 11389564)
Neither does anyone else .......................................
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I beg to differ, if we are playing semantics over EDTO/ETOPS that’s one thing but to say that the aeroplanes are not certified with up to 180 etops is not correct
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Always good to see new opportunities arise for workers who deserve such. AWK to XLR, got a feeling you won't regret it.
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I agree it’s good to see an addition to the job opportunities available.
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I beg to differ, if we are playing semantics over EDTO/ETOPS that’s one thing but to say that the aeroplanes are not certified with up to 180 etops is not correct I don't see any claim made that the ability to operate to 180 minutes after an engine failure was not certified. |
Semantics, or accuracy? |
Originally Posted by Snakecharma
(Post 11389604)
I beg to differ, if we are playing semantics over EDTO/ETOPS that’s one thing but to say that the aeroplanes are not certified with up to 180 etops is not correct
“The 737-800BCF is not approved for ETOPS. IV. Operating and Service Instructions. 1. Airplane Flight Manual (AFM):. Boeing Document D631A001.”—-///—/ Aeronautical Engineers, Inc has received ETOPS 180 approval from the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for its B737-800SF freighter conversion. The ETOPS 180 approval allows the B737-800SF freighter to fly 180-minute extended operations over water and remote regions. Without ETOPS approval aircraft must be within 60 minutes flying time of an airport where they can make an emergency landing. |
ETOPS issues aside, this operator does not have an NZ AOC as far as I'm aware. Good luck expediting that process with the NZ regulator.
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Originally Posted by Mumbojumbo
(Post 11396140)
ETOPS issues aside, this operator does not have an NZ AOC as far as I'm aware. Good luck expediting that process with the NZ regulator.
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Originally Posted by StarVision
(Post 11405865)
most of that's done..
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A Texel painted 737 was seen in Brisbane the other night.
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How can Texel Air be operating AKL - CHC -AKL last few nights without NZ AOC and still on Bahrain rego? FOC or what??
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Originally Posted by MK 4A Tank
(Post 11415440)
How can Texel Air be operating AKL - CHC -AKL last few nights without NZ AOC and still on Bahrain rego? FOC or what??
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Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink
(Post 11415574)
The same way airwork operates NZ registered aircraft within Australia??
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Originally Posted by Zinfandel
(Post 11415607)
That’s incorrect…they use the Trans-Tasman agreement. This allows any Australian or New Zealand Operator to operate in each other’s country.
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Just operate under someone elses AOC with their consent/business deal, and notification to CAA.
Presume Parcelair or Airwork?? Air NZ gets another airline in to fly to Perth I read somewhere here, that will be under ANZ AOC. |
Originally Posted by sid-star
(Post 11415625)
The ANZA agreement within the aviation act only applies to NZ and Aus operators .The CAA NZ part 129.3 rule is explicit .That doesn’t mean that a foreign AOC airline cannot seek an alleviation via exemption.
There was no mention of Texel or foreign operators. |
Can anyone enlighten me on what plans Texel Air has in NZ and Oz. From what I gather they are now doing the flying for NZ Post but people here talk about taking on more Airwork work which is all in Oz at present.
Is Texel still hiring, if so what are their pay and conditions along with basing locations. Any info would be appreciated. |
Originally Posted by palauisland
(Post 11416762)
Can anyone enlighten me on what plans Texel Air has in NZ and Oz. From what I gather they are now doing the flying for NZ Post but people here talk about taking on more Airwork work which is all in Oz at present.
Is Texel still hiring, if so what are their pay and conditions along with basing locations. Any info would be appreciated. AFAIK the largest, the Toll contract, is up for grabs, and Airwork have had a horrible service delivery due to the continued unreliability of their ancient classics (These are 80s vintage airframes.) Airwork had the opportunity to upgrade at a time when cargo was booming and aircraft were historically cheap. They chose to wait until the industry came booming back and replacement was undeniably needed, with no way to bridge the gap between now and getting new equipment. Damn shame, but at least it's happening when there are other opportunities for the people there. |
Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11416943)
Just anecdotal, but it seems likely Texel is after any and all Airwork contracts.
AFAIK the largest, the Toll contract, is up for grabs, and Airwork have had a horrible service delivery due to the continued unreliability of their ancient classics (These are 80s vintage airframes.) Airwork had the opportunity to upgrade at a time when cargo was booming and aircraft were historically cheap. They chose to wait until the industry came booming back and replacement was undeniably needed, with no way to bridge the gap between now and getting new equipment. Damn shame, but at least it's happening when there are other opportunities for the people there. I see another -400F passed through Darwin this week heading to NZ to join Airwork’s fleet. |
I see another -400F passed through Darwin this week heading to NZ to join Airwork’s fleet. Pionair (now owned by ASL) are introducing B737-800 freighters |
Unfortunately, the writing is on the wall for Airwork with Texel (and maybe others) arriving on the scene.
Managerial flaws as listed above with an ageing fleet are not a successful combination and it's a pity because the pilot body is let down by them. I hear some cold calling has already been initiated with the Airwork crew as TOLL's frustrations increase and negotiations behind closed doors continue. |
Look at the wonderfully uniformed opinions and gossip spewed as gospel.
Exceedingly sad seeing some of the posters here wishing to see dozens of pilots put out of work and have their lives tipped upside down. Wonder what their motivational could possibly be? Or who they could possibly work for? |
Originally Posted by HomeJames
(Post 11418507)
Look at the wonderfully uniformed opinions and gossip spewed as gospel.
Exceedingly sad seeing some of the posters here wishing to see dozens of pilots put out of work and have their lives tipped upside down. Wonder what their motivational could possibly be? Or who they could possibly work for? |
Originally Posted by HomeJames
(Post 11418507)
Look at the wonderfully uniformed opinions and gossip spewed as gospel.
Exceedingly sad seeing some of the posters here wishing to see dozens of pilots put out of work and have their lives tipped upside down. Wonder what their motivational could possibly be? Or who they could possibly work for? |
Looking at Texel Air website and freight news with only two 737-800 s on order or delivered I can’t see how they can take all Airworks contracts given Airwork operates a large and diverse network with dozens of aircraft.
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Originally Posted by palauisland
(Post 11418632)
dozens of aircraft.
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Looking at ASL’s website they have 28 B737-800BCF’s and another 12 to join the fleet. They also have 42 B737-400F.
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Originally Posted by palauisland
(Post 11416762)
Is Texel still hiring, if so what are their pay and conditions along with basing locations. Any info would be appreciated.
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HomeJames thanks for your personal attack via PM.
It's been noted and saved. Thanks for playing. |
They declare their pay and conditions after you have done interview with them. |
Oh Dook,
If you thought my advice about not posting negatively about a company that you are working for and on probation with was an attack, you have an interesting view on reality. And Remember. You chose to take this public. |
If you kids keep squabbling you’ll lose YouTube for a week and no biscuits in your lunchbox.
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Originally Posted by 73qanda
(Post 11419057)
If you kids keep squabbling you’ll lose YouTube for a week and no biscuits in your lunchbox.
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She also works at Bunnings and can’t wait for the next season of Bondi Housewives, now get to your room.
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