The JAL 2 water landing could hardly be called a ditching, the crew accidentally landed in the water when they flew too low on the ILS in fog, it was not intentional. The wheels contacted the water in the attempted recovery and the aircraft settled, with its wheels on the bay floor. In a weird set of circumstances the water came up to just under the exit door level creating some nice photo ops.

JAL2 - Bay Area Spotters

As said earlier TACA flight 110, a 737, also landed off field and returned to service, even being flown out from a nearby road.

From ABC News: "DFES and the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) are both conducting separate investigations into the crash. In a statement, the ATSB said it was assembling a team from its Perth and Canberra offices with experience in aircraft operations and maintenance, human factors and data recovery to conduct the "evidence-collection phase" of the investigation. "Initially, investigators will seek to interview the pilots and witnesses to understand the circumstances of the accident, and determine the accessibility of the accident site with the aim of conducting an on-site examination of the aircraft wreckage," the statement said. "The scope of the investigation and its time frame will be determined as the ATSB builds its understanding of the nature of the accident."

Gurgle indicates that the "nearby road" was a dis-used and reclaimed air strip.
A bit like the Gimli drag strip.

Gee. No lives lost. No fare paying passengers involved. Inherently risky activity. What happened to ATSB's 'long standing policy'?

It couldn't be that ATSB's decisions to investigate are affected by the extent of media interest in accidents, could it?

Given 'Media Releases' from Preliminary Reports are a key part of ATSB's paper production effort, you might be tracking very close to the truth there, LB!

Bit of ahead scratcher, this one from Perth Now:



One was a man, and the other... a hamster???

Speaking of bent fuselages, does a golf course in BKK count as "off airport"? If so, then there was a 747 that flew again after a round or two... :E

Dunno about that. Apart from The West Australian, the media has shown little interest in the fact that a B737 crashed in WA yesterday afternoon. Perhaps the east-coast-centric Australian media outlets don’t think such an event is newsworthy. :rolleyes:

I’m also more than a little surprised the world’s best aviation journalist hasn’t popped up with a few “insights”…

What is the slowest airspeed that aircraft could have been travelling at in controlled flight, if it had ditched all it's retardant?
I'm trying to understand how fast they may have been travelling if it was a forced landing - so to speak.
Remarkable...

From logansi:

A similar policy in South Australia - two SEATs (AT 820s) and two observation helis are dispatched on the first alarm to any grass fire (or similar). In my observation probably 20% of these dispatches are "cancelled" whilst en route to the incident with a 'not required" pager message. We don't see LATs very often in SA. There are none based here, but they can be requested from interstate if needed. We've now got a couple of converted Blackhawks in our fleet - very useful in specific situations.

The question is asked in respect of this WA accident: "What is the mission here?" It's a good question :rolleyes:.

2 crashes within the span of 3 years, whilst doing similar activities. Hmmmmmm.

How about fighting a large out of control bushfire where lives and property were deemed to be at risk by the DFES? Is that not a good enough reason to bring out the big toys?

Whilst doing similar activities... Like fire fighting? That's what they do!

​​​​​​​Careful LB your bias is showing. You know very well that a hull loss of a transport category aircraft is going to be investigated.

Given they're based in BQB, any largish fire would surely be used as an opportunity to keep up the skills, even if it wasn't necessarily 'warranted' by life/property? I mean you don't want them sitting there until the 'Big One' comes with no recent 'in the field(air)' runs? IIRC this aircraft was here last year and help stopped a large fire in the Perth hills being much much worse... sister's place was in the danger zone, they were minutes away from having to leave when the call came through the LAT had changed the severity of the situation

He's pulled the pin from The Worst Australian and is planning on more TV appearances and releasing new books :rolleyes:

No, it's your bias that is showing. The aircraft may have been originally certified in the transport category, but I very much doubt it could have been re-fitted with seats and returned to Part 121 ops.

But let's hope the ATSB comes up with some 'takeaways' that folks flying for the airlines will consider relevant.

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I know there is the “Messiah,” but who is the other guy?
Amazing result.

And we managed to drown a Skycrane in Victoria in January 2019

The original, and best, is GT.

Hot on his heels and the darling of Ch 9 is Discrepancy.