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Mk1Aviation 12th Jan 2023 03:18

Bonza has its AOC
 
So it’s official! Bonza has now got its AOC…

Let’s place bets!

Will they stand the test of rough economic times and lead the way in LCC operations?

Place your bets!

bazza stub 12th Jan 2023 03:30

Do we have anything else in australia?

dragon man 12th Jan 2023 03:31

Media release: Purple seal of approval: Bonza achieves its licence to fly
Bonza, Australia’s only independent low-cost carrier, has been granted its Air Operator Certificate (AOC) from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA). The airline is now finalising its preparations to go on sale with its first wave of flights out of the airline’s home base on the Sunshine Coast.
Bonza has been working collaboratively with the regulator as it works towards connecting communities by gradually introducing its initial route map of 17 destinations and 27 routes - 93% of which are not currently served by any other airline and 96% of which currently have no low-cost carrier.
“This is an historic moment for Australian aviation as we get ready to launch the first high capacity airline in more than 15 years, and the country’s only independent low cost carrier,” said Tim Jordan, CEO of Bonza.
“The excitement for what we are about to deliver is palpable and the timing couldn’t be better. Demand for domestic travel is high and Aussies deserve for travel to be a basic right for many, not a luxury for the few. This has never been truer with today’s cost of living challenges. With the approval from CASA, 2023 is set to be the year of seeing more of your own backyard for less,” added Jordan.
Bonza will soon go on sale with its Sunshine Coast base followed by its Melbourne base. Jordan urges Aussies to download the Fly Bonza app and sign up to be the first to know when its initial phase of flights will be up for grabs.
The airline’s digital approach means the app will be the only place to book with the exception of registered local travel agents. A digital support centre will assist customers with queries or those who choose to get support with making their booking.
“I’d like to thank our team of legends who have worked very hard to achieve today’s milestone working alongside CASA who do incredibly important work regulating Australian aviation. Now, our focus turns to connecting communities and we hope to see many Aussies onboard soon,” added Jordan.
ENDS.


The best of luck to them. May they give Qantas a bloody nose.

SHVC 12th Jan 2023 03:36

And then one breakdown out at tamworth and greyhound buses all the lax to sunny coast.

PoppaJo 12th Jan 2023 03:36

As long as they don’t outsource the safety department to another country like the previous mob did, and completely ignore any communication from the regulator, they should be fine.

CASA will be watching closely. Cannot have another repeat re the pussycat mess. If standards fall, boxes are not being ticked, then I hope they take appropriate action.

That aside, congratulations, and go give it to Jetstar who need a wake up call at the moment.



Lead Balloon 12th Jan 2023 03:44

Congratulations to Bonza. My prediction of March was evidently too pessimistic.

Mk1Aviation 12th Jan 2023 04:09


Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 11364611)
Congratulations to Bonza. My prediction of March was evidently too pessimistic.

you were close tho, so good work!

Boe787 12th Jan 2023 04:18

One wishes them well….but whilst a good idea….wrong aeroplane…..cheap E190s ala Alliance might have worked.

SHVC 12th Jan 2023 04:57


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11364607)
As long as they don’t outsource the safety department to another country like the previous mob did, and completely ignore any communication from the regulator, they should be fine.

Well at $50 a ticket I think they will struggle to get maintenance done in Australia.

deja vu 12th Jan 2023 05:06


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11364625)
Well at $50 a ticket I think they will struggle to get maintenance done in Australia.

Time to end the myth that maintenance done in Australia is somehow superior to numerous other places.

Australopithecus 12th Jan 2023 05:11

They wouldn’t need to charge only $50 given how high fares are currently. I wish them well. We and our customers could certainly use the competition.

Deano969 12th Jan 2023 05:19


Originally Posted by Mk1Aviation (Post 11364599)
So it’s official! Bonza has now got its AOC…

Let’s place bets!

Will they stand the test of rough economic times and lead the way in LCC operations?

Place your bets!

A few of their thinner routes may struggle unless they use MCY as a hub and spoke
My 2 cents is that they will quickly move onto routes that JQ ply on the holiday market OOL CNS BNK etc

cLeArIcE 12th Jan 2023 05:43

Wish them all the best, especially those who end up working for them. Aus does not need another airline in it's graveyard.
My mob (JQ) is an absolute embarrassment at the moment. Hopefully for everyone's sake this experiment works. A huge wake up call is needed.

Mk1Aviation 12th Jan 2023 06:07

Has anyone got an idea of how many sectors they intend flying the max’s on per day? Will they try for 8?

Flybondi, a 737-8ng LCC in Argentina, push their planes to the limit, up to 10 flights per day in an economically harsh environment.. they get by … just

rodney rude 12th Jan 2023 06:13

SHVC - Jesus you're a doomer mate. Have a look at all your posts, you have nothing positive to say about anything or anyone. So Bonza get an AOC and your first post is negative. Thank Christ I don't have to drink piss with you mate

SHVC 12th Jan 2023 07:31

I don’t give two $hits if Bonza succeeds to tell you the truth, were my post negative not really just statements. If one does break down then it’s the grey hound bus no recovery options am I wrong? Ppl like to bag QF, JQ and VA out however if one goes U/S or gets canned there is recovery which is something Bonza won’t have and same as another start up getting around with 73s.

Im awesome to drink with ppl like me I’m just blunt, to the point and I don’t make everything fluffy when it’s not. Bonza is not fluffy.

secondly- I never said Australian maintenance was superior, just stated they would struggle to get it in Australia for $50 tickets, we all know the cost of operating in Australia and labor ain’t cheap.

Mr_App 12th Jan 2023 07:40

I don't blame anyone for being skeptical. Tiger lost $1 billion across 13 years.


Ollie Onion 12th Jan 2023 07:40

Good luck to them.

Transition Layer 12th Jan 2023 08:06

Any of you cobbers know what they are paying the blokes and sheilas up the front?

Track5milefinal 12th Jan 2023 08:10

Two fifths of **** all I would guess!

Alice Kiwican 12th Jan 2023 08:37


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11364700)
Any of you cobbers know what they are paying the blokes and sheilas up the front?

Rumour I heard was Bonza Capt on $200k

Mk1Aviation 12th Jan 2023 09:50


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11364680)
Im awesome to drink with ppl like me I’m just blunt, to the point and I don’t make everything fluffy when it’s not. Bonza is not fluffy.

I’ll have a beer with you mate.


Company with the contract for Bonzas maintenance in Melbourne is paying up to 170k for LAMEs and paying for the type courses

Deano969 12th Jan 2023 15:48


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11364606)
And then one breakdown out at tamworth and greyhound buses all the lax to sunny coast.

FYI Shazza VH-UJT is their back up aircraft, so don't worry about Greyhound.......

ROH111 12th Jan 2023 17:06

I found;

“Bonza Tipping Competition”

on Facebook. Put down your predicted last day of operation, win the prize.

SHVC 12th Jan 2023 19:09


Originally Posted by Deano969 (Post 11364953)
FYI Shazza VH-UJT is their back up aircraft, so don't worry about Greyhound.......

So operating 27 routes off the bat as they have said with 2 aircraft leaving 1 spare. I’d hate to be those crew.

rodney rude 12th Jan 2023 21:26

SHVC - fair enough mate, but Plleeeeaaase, don't tell me about VA and recovery. I have been stuffed around so many times in the last 12 months by this outfit with cancelled flights, obsenely late flights, and bags arriving 3 days late. Recovery???????????? Not that mob mate. No offense at all intended to the the crews.

And now that Bonza looks up and running I suppose we can now be expected to be bored by Popa Joe counting loads again. Spare ,me.

Deano969 12th Jan 2023 23:18


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11365056)
So operating 27 routes off the bat as they have said with 2 aircraft leaving 1 spare. I’d hate to be those crew.

There is a fourth due shortly

Deano969 12th Jan 2023 23:21


Originally Posted by rodney rude (Post 11365120)
SHVC - fair enough mate, but Plleeeeaaase, don't tell me about VA and recovery. I have been stuffed around so many times in the last 12 months by this outfit with cancelled flights, obsenely late flights, and bags arriving 3 days late. Recovery???????????? Not that mob mate. No offense at all intended to the the crews.

And now that Bonza looks up and running I suppose we can now be expected to be bored by Popa Joe counting loads again. Spare ,me.

LOL Poppa has given up counting loads on REX which should now be very simple 168 168 168 168

PoppaJo 12th Jan 2023 23:44

Rod. I was calling out Sharpie’s bull**** as did many others, coming out daily claiming his operation was doing fantastic, Alan and co better all watch out. Remember the bit when he said you and me, pilots at the opposition, are all just overpaid with too many entitlements, with plans to ‘rip away those entitlement’s you pilots have built up over the years’. The prick needed to be called out. His operation was doing terrible, and to this day remains the worst performing upstart the country has seen.

Anyway, the market pulled back capacity, the others crashed operationally (still are) , Rexy sold their arses out to travel agents, demand boomed, and things have now improved. Don’t forget, when the capacity comes back in, Rex gets burnt.

I don’t believe Bonza Management carry the same blood type as Rex. Seems to be a proper airline. While the route map is questionable, the market is different vs 2019 and might be able to take it at the moment. I wish them well, I just don’t want a repeat re Tiger. Started off great, then Ken left, wheels fell off, place went to ****.

Deano969 13th Jan 2023 00:06


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11365184)
Don’t forget, when the capacity comes back in, Rex gets burnt.

I'll bet ya anything that's not going to happen Poppa

Global Aviator 13th Jan 2023 00:35

BONZA mate, how good, that’s the spirit up and running despite the negativity from self proclaimed aviation experts.

Given it a crack with Shaza and Bazza.

May you continue to expand and grow, it is great for Straya.

B772 13th Jan 2023 00:44

AOC granted too close to Friday the 13th for my liking !

Visual_Approach 13th Jan 2023 04:35


Originally Posted by ROH111 (Post 11364987)
I found;

“Bonza Tipping Competition”

on Facebook. Put down your predicted last day of operation, win the prize.

March 20th

pinkpanther1 13th Jan 2023 04:51


Originally Posted by Visual_Approach (Post 11365259)
March 20th

It's pretty sad people are taking bets on failures of a company, The loss of jobs of staff and the lack of competition in the workforce.

A rising tide lifts all ships. Having more employment opportunities in AUS is only a good thing - if anything it makes our current employers work harder to keep and entice us.

I hope they do well! And shame on everyone who is hoping for their demise.

Mr_App 13th Jan 2023 06:03


Originally Posted by pinkpanther1 (Post 11365265)
I hope they do well! And shame on everyone who is hoping for their demise.

Perhaps they are the smart ones though. Perhaps they are not.

However...who remembers Ozjet, Strategic, Air Australia, Skyairworld, Jetgo, Tiger Airways? Why it this outfit so different?

Mk1Aviation 13th Jan 2023 06:44


Originally Posted by rodney rude (Post 11365120)
And now that Bonza looks up and running I suppose we can now be expected to be bored by Popa Joe counting loads again. Spare ,me.


hahaha!! Can’t wait! “53 pax Avalon - Gold Coast…there just not going to make it… Dan needs to stop subsidising these flights”


Ollie Onion 13th Jan 2023 07:05

I hope they do well, a very risky time to be launching a holiday destination focussed airline when the economy is tanking.

Icarus2001 13th Jan 2023 07:07

In what way is the economy tanking?

Bend alot 13th Jan 2023 07:52


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11365306)
In what way is the economy tanking?

Interest Rate 0.25% - 3.25% and predicted to rise, Wage growth stagnation, The Big 2 states property price falls, Elon only lost a few Billion, Power/food/fuel record highs.

All is good.

Ollie Onion 13th Jan 2023 08:28


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11365306)
In what way is the economy tanking?


Interest rates high and rising, record inflation, shortage of workers, property prices falling and the IMF predicting world wide recession. The way the inflations gets under control is by making people hurt financially so they stop spending, they will stop spending on things like ‘holidays’. But hey it could all turn out well, we just don’t know.


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