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gordonfvckingramsay 21st May 2022 00:13


Originally Posted by Bloated Stomach (Post 11232740)
I was offered a potential contract operating for Alliance. The terms were atrocious and politely turned it down. Don’t worry guys, most Brits are not interested. They will struggle with foreigners.

If the ACCC allows this one through, you can bet your bottom dollar (pun intended) that Alliance will be hit with the same strategic imperatives so desperately sought from the other business units by Qantas. In short the deal they are on now will inevitably get much worse.

Alice Kiwican 21st May 2022 01:18


Originally Posted by On eyre (Post 11232727)
Really ?
And could you suggest who else would have had the capability to do the tasks.

The guys operating the ex-Jetgo EMB145’s from Essendon ( can’t remember the operator’s name) might have been able to.

On eyre 21st May 2022 03:57


Originally Posted by Alice Kiwican (Post 11233029)
The guys operating the ex-Jetgo EMB145’s from Essendon ( can’t remember the operator’s name) might have been able to.

And they probably quoted for the tasks if available.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 21st May 2022 04:05


Originally Posted by TimmyTee (Post 11232651)
Alliance truly are the chosen ones, as they were hand selected to ferry Scomos media pack around the country a few times over.

And have done the same for the last couple of Federal elections if I recall.

Going Nowhere 21st May 2022 04:57


Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was (Post 11233071)
And have done the same for the last couple of Federal elections if I recall.

There have also been Bizjet's and KingAir's flying around under the "ENVOY" callsign of late.

Hothighhungover 22nd May 2022 01:16

Do these EASA ATPL holders have to complete all the CASA ATPL syllabus and then an ATPL flight test? Seems only fair as that’s the requirement going the other way.

Australopithecus 22nd May 2022 02:21

They may not hold EASA licences since brexit. But either way, I don’t think you can fly VH aircraft here without a CASA licence.

If those contractors have to pay the FBT on the accomodation they will be working for $4000/month net. So, one school fee and 120 instant noodles.

Tally_Ho_Boys 28th May 2022 05:53

It’s begun
 
I hear EastCoast Fokker pilots are all going to call in sick. Its either next week, or the one after bloody genius move if it happens.


Tally Ho

Icarus2001 28th May 2022 19:27


But either way, I don’t think you can fly VH aircraft here without a CASA licence.
Pilots can fly on a C of V also.

Sleaz 29th May 2022 04:55

Sick days ? I suspect a mass exodus will begin to unfold all thanks to Nige’s email making its way into the public domain.

Colonel_Klink 29th May 2022 09:27


Originally Posted by Sleaz (Post 11237171)
Sick days ? I suspect a mass exodus will begin to unfold all thanks to Nige’s email making its way into the public domain.

For those playing at home without the inside word on what this is - care to elaborate on the ‘vibe’ of the email?

davidclarke 29th May 2022 10:10


Originally Posted by Sleaz (Post 11237171)
Sick days ? I suspect a mass exodus will begin to unfold all thanks to Nige’s email making its way into the public domain.

Can somebody cut and paste said email?

Icarus2001 31st May 2022 08:40

So is “Nigel’s email” the one from the recruitment agency offering positions with Alliance or an internal Alliance email that has “ made its way in to the public domain” but not here on PPRUNE?
The Townsville Refueller tells me that employment of the recruitment agency has been denied.

Bloated Stomach 6th Jun 2022 17:22

What’s the latest with AeroProfessional in the Uk sending guys to Alliance? Is this still going ahead or have the management and Union prevented this?

Icarus2001 9th Jun 2022 03:07

So is the departure of the long term HR manager a result of the lack of pilots? mmmmmmm

Karunch 9th Jun 2022 19:48


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11243103)
So is the departure of the long term HR manager a result of the lack of pilots? mmmmmmm

It might well be the cause of the lack of pilots. Apparently she ran off with the HR laptop (again). They no longer know who's applied or been interviewed.

ScepticalOptomist 9th Jun 2022 23:15


Originally Posted by Bloated Stomach (Post 11241820)
What’s the latest with AeroProfessional in the Uk sending guys to Alliance? Is this still going ahead or have the management and Union prevented this?

From what I’ve been told - it was all bluff and bull excrement..

grrowler 10th Jun 2022 01:30

For what purpose? It was certainly an explored option.

Maybe they should stop looking for bigger sticks and find other ways to stem the tide of resignations.

Icarus2001 27th Jul 2022 23:53

So word from the refueler this morning is that the Alliance CEO has "resigned".

Lapon 28th Jul 2022 00:03


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11269031)
So word from the refueler this morning is that the Alliance CEO has "resigned".

That is confirmed

Sector3 28th Jul 2022 02:34

https://cdn-api.markitdigital.com/ap...df02a206a39ff4

1A_Please 28th Jul 2022 03:42


Originally Posted by Sector3 (Post 11269060)

Personal reasons could mean nothing or a lot!

grrowler 28th Jul 2022 03:57

Don’t dig too deep, it may/ may not reveal some/ no/ many juicy secrets 🤫

Icarus2001 8th Aug 2022 03:28

ASX Announcement today...https://www2.asx.com.au/markets/trad...ouncements.aqz

Fokker 50 fleet to be sold.

MickG0105 8th Aug 2022 04:15


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11274788)
ASX Announcement today...https://www2.asx.com.au/markets/trad...ouncements.aqz

Fokker 50 fleet to be sold.

Hopefully whoever prepares the ASX announcements over at Rex will take note - that is what a properly written market sensitive announcement should look like.

Saintly 10th Aug 2022 13:52


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11274788)
ASX Announcement today...https://www2.asx.com.au/markets/trad...ouncements.aqz

Fokker 50 fleet to be sold.

Thats sad. There will be no use for them anywhere in WA. I wonder if Alliance will do a special flight to say goodbye to the F50 just like VA did in February 2016 when they sold off the F50

Icarus2001 12th Aug 2022 00:05

https://australianaviation.com.au/20...-poach-pilots/


When managers move between companies it is called head hunting when pilots move it is poaching. Odd that.

brokenagain 12th Aug 2022 00:08

‘Non monetary incentives’. Like what, Friday pizza lunches?

TimmyTee 12th Aug 2022 00:15

That still costs money.
I’m gonna guess more “atta boy!”’s coming their way

Australopithecus 12th Aug 2022 00:46

Poaching pilots. FFS. I hope they lose everybody, and their former pilots all go on to better things. As for non monetary? Money talks, BS walks.

TimmyTee 12th Aug 2022 00:48

I presume they aren't allowed to give anything monetary based due to qantas "wage policy"

grrowler 12th Aug 2022 02:02

I reckon the lack of willingness to give monetary incentives well and truly pre dates any direction from QF.

Alice Kiwican 12th Aug 2022 03:35


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11274788)
ASX Announcement today...https://www2.asx.com.au/markets/trad...ouncements.aqz

Fokker 50 fleet to be sold.


i didn’t know they still had any Fokker 50’s….

Australia2 12th Aug 2022 10:35

G’day Saintly,
There’s one planned this Sunday in ADL; seats out of a staff lottery.
Oz2

Australia2 12th Aug 2022 10:56


Originally Posted by TimmyTee (Post 11276888)
I presume they aren't allowed to give anything monetary based due to qantas "wage policy"


G’day TT,

Thats an interesting point given the current transition; who’s pulling the levers ?

I hope the rumoured EFA 2% is not a sign of things to come . . . Atlas will be happy, and Asia as a whole is yet to fire back up.

Oz2

Jack D. Ripper 12th Aug 2022 14:09


Originally Posted by Beryllium Erbium (Post 11277090)
The day of reckoning is coming for Australian aviation. The day the tide goes out. The day its ridiculous 'standards' are seen for what they are. The day that every Australian pilot sitting in the right seat of a Saab/Dash8/Bras that has been told they should be thankful that they get to sit in the right seat for 8 years, the day they realise they could be flying a B747/777 without having to sit an interview with 3 Austronaughts, a psychologist and 2 HR experts while having their answers assessed by mensa HAS COME.

Sooooo you expect a job paying $200k plus to be based on an interview for numpties?

Most businesses employing people on that level of salary would be expected to conduct a reasonable level of due diligence.

glekichi 12th Aug 2022 17:14

Whilst due diligence is certainly required, I think the point is often the 'intellectual' interviewers do not understand aviation.
But maybe its a myth, no sarcasm, because at the end of the day most capable pilots I know have good jobs.
Personally Cathay passed me over (dodged a bullet there) for not knowing what the name of some obscure aircraft in a museum's name was, but I worked for other Asian airlines without issue and also passed Jetstar and QF assessment.

(edit for the dodged bullet comment)

Icarus2001 12th Aug 2022 22:03


Personally Cathay passed me over (dodged a bullet there) for not knowing what the name of some obscure aircraft in a museum's name was
The truth is no airline tells an applicant why they were unsuccessful. Perhaps you believe that is why they did not select you but it probably wasn’t.

morno 12th Aug 2022 22:04


Originally Posted by glekichi (Post 11277291)
Whilst due diligence is certainly required, I think the point is often the 'intellectual' interviewers do not understand aviation.
But maybe its a myth, no sarcasm, because at the end of the day most capable pilots I know have good jobs.
Personally Cathay passed me over (dodged a bullet there) for not knowing what the name of some obscure aircraft in a museum's name was, but I worked for other Asian airlines without issue and also passed Jetstar and QF assessment.

(edit for the dodged bullet comment)

How do you know that is why Cathay passed you over?


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