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MelbourneFlyer 5th Nov 2021 06:42

First Qantas A380 returns Tuesday November 9
 
The first QF A380 was supposed to come back December 25 but now "Qantas will welcome back the first of ten Airbus A380s on Tuesday November 9, in readiness for the restart of superjumbo flights to Los Angeles in late March 2022. The airline has confirmed to Executive Traveller that the A380 will arrive in Sydney on Tuesday afternoon, where it's sure to enjoy a warm reception when it pulls into Hangar 96 at the Qantas jet base."

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...day-november-9

a_pilot 5th Nov 2021 07:46

That can't be right. For the past 18 months all the experts have been telling me that the Qantas A380 will "never ever" fly again. It's dead, it's over. It will never fly again. This is the end of the quad jets. :eek:

I also don't know who will fly them, because these experts also told me that all the Qantas A380 pilots will be made redundant once jobseeker ends, which had already ended. Apparently Qantas was only hanging on these pilots just to collect jobkeeper just to make their balance sheets (income) look better and not because Qantas might actually need them again one day. :D

Ollie Onion 5th Nov 2021 08:04

This is great news, congratulations to all the 380 crews, hope it see’s you all back at work soon.

ScepticalOptomist 5th Nov 2021 08:46


Originally Posted by a_pilot (Post 11137519)
That can't be right. For the past 18 months all the experts have been telling me that the Qantas A380 will "never ever" fly again. It's dead, it's over. It will never fly again. This is the end of the quad jets. :eek:

I also don't know who will fly them, because these experts also told me that all the Qantas A380 pilots will be made redundant once jobseeker ends, which had already ended. Apparently Qantas was only hanging on these pilots just to collect jobkeeper just to make their balance sheets (income) look better and not because Qantas might actually need them again one day. :D

Surely no fool takes any notice of the constant nay-sayers - they’re the same ones that said COVID was the end of aviation, traffic won’t be back for 5 years, blah blah blah….

What a miserable bunch they must be.

Aviation is just a cycle - boom, bust, boom ad nauseum.

Great news for the 380 crews, will be great to see them back at work.

3Greens 5th Nov 2021 10:05


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11137534)
Surely no fool takes any notice of the constant nay-sayers - they’re the same ones that said COVID was the end of aviation, traffic won’t be back for 5 years, blah blah blah….

What a miserable bunch they must be.

Aviation is just a cycle - boom, bust, boom ad nauseum.

Great news for the 380 crews, will be great to see them back at work.

great news. They all said the same about the 12 BA have too. BA start 380 ops again next week with short haul flights from London to FRA and MAD, while cabin and flight crew get back up to speed. The plan is for all 12 to return to service by March 22.

Capt Fathom 5th Nov 2021 10:09

The aircraft coming home just happened to be in Germany under maintenance. The rest are still in the Californian desert!

zambonidriver 5th Nov 2021 10:14


Originally Posted by 3Greens (Post 11137569)
great news. They all said the same about the 12 BA have too. BA start 380 ops again next week with short haul flights from London to FRA and MAD, while cabin and flight crew get back up to speed. The plan is for all 12 to return to service by March 22.

Is there any source for the concerned flights (shorthaul 380) ?

Sparrows. 5th Nov 2021 10:33


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 11137571)
The aircraft coming home just happened to be in Germany under maintenance. The rest are still in the Californian desert!

Was going to be sitting around for a few months, as it couldn’t be scheduled in/completed until March. Instead bringing it home to have the maintenance completed here in Hanger 96.

PW1830 5th Nov 2021 12:18

Damn - pesky pilots seen through the spin

Stationair8 5th Nov 2021 21:00

Any truth that Qantas will be running the A380 over Rex Saab 340 routes?


andybsei 5th Nov 2021 21:29


Originally Posted by zambonidriver (Post 11137573)
Is there any source for the concerned flights (shorthaul 380) ?

https://mediacentre.britishairways.c...nce-march-2020

https://simpleflying.com/british-air...ort-haul-a380/

Going Boeing 5th Nov 2021 23:20

I was one of many who didn’t think the QF A380’s would return to service because the economics of the aircraft are marginal in normal operations over long routes. For the sake of the A380 crews I’m happy to be wrong.

I suspect that Qantas had to bring them back as they don’t have sufficient capacity in long range twins to fly the routes. The A350 will probably be ordered fairly soon and it will pair with the B787 doing long range, point to point routes, with the A380 being moved to medium range (9-11 hours) routes where it has much better potential to be profitable.

I think that everyone agrees that international flying and, airlines in general, will be significantly different post pandemic.

brokenagain 5th Nov 2021 23:28

Where’s Telfer? :}

SandyPalms 6th Nov 2021 00:10

The return of 10 A380's it amazing news for everybody in mainline, even those who are not, or have no intention of flying the A380. It's potentialy 100 commands, 100 first officer and 200 second officer positions that don't have to be distributed (through the RIN process) to the remaining LH fleets. It's a game changer for everybody. Hooray!

Keg 6th Nov 2021 00:36


Originally Posted by SandyPalms (Post 11137948)
The return of 10 A380's it amazing news for everybody in mainline, even those who are not, or have no intention of flying the A380. It's potentialy 100 commands, 100 first officer and 200 second officer positions that don't have to be distributed (through the RIN process) to the remaining LH fleets. It's a game changer for everybody. Hooray!

43 Captains, 41 F/Os, and 113 S/Os once the current training allocations flow through. :}

But your point is well made. :ok:

SandyPalms 6th Nov 2021 03:37


Originally Posted by Keg (Post 11137952)
43 Captains, 41 F/Os, and 113 S/Os once the current training allocations flow through. :}

But your point is well made. :ok:

true Keg. I should have included positions that will need to be allocated as well, not just the RIN. Terrific news

markis10 6th Nov 2021 07:28


Originally Posted by Going Boeing (Post 11137930)
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I suspect that Qantas had to bring them back as they don’t have sufficient capacity in long range twins to fly the routes. The A350 will probably be ordered fairly soon and it will pair with the B787 doing long range, point to point routes, with the A380 being moved to medium range (9-11 hours) routes where it has much better potential to be profitable.

Qantas has plenty of capacity, and will get more with the plan to run A330s to HNL. A380s are coming back to service ports that are slot limited, LHR and LAX being prime examples, that’s it’s sweet spot and the airline has stated as such.

ScepticalOptomist 6th Nov 2021 09:56


Originally Posted by Going Boeing (Post 11137930)
I think that everyone agrees that international flying and, airlines in general, will be significantly different post pandemic.

I agree - they’ll be leaner, and busier! :ok:

3Greens 6th Nov 2021 10:39


Originally Posted by zambonidriver (Post 11137573)
Is there any source for the concerned flights (shorthaul 380) ?

my roster. Which I’m not going to post here. But in all seriousness, it’s literally the first result on google if you search…https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/brit...-a380-returns/

White Knight 7th Nov 2021 05:53


Originally Posted by Going Boeing
I think that everyone agrees that international flying and, airlines in general, will be significantly different post pandemic.

It won’t be significantly different at all. Airport terminals and flights in the now open parts of the globe are choc-a-bloc!


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