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First Qantas A380 returns Tuesday November 9

Old 5th Nov 2021, 07:42
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First Qantas A380 returns Tuesday November 9

The first QF A380 was supposed to come back December 25 but now "Qantas will welcome back the first of ten Airbus A380s on Tuesday November 9, in readiness for the restart of superjumbo flights to Los Angeles in late March 2022. The airline has confirmed to Executive Traveller that the A380 will arrive in Sydney on Tuesday afternoon, where it's sure to enjoy a warm reception when it pulls into Hangar 96 at the Qantas jet base."

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...day-november-9
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Old 5th Nov 2021, 08:46
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That can't be right. For the past 18 months all the experts have been telling me that the Qantas A380 will "never ever" fly again. It's dead, it's over. It will never fly again. This is the end of the quad jets.

I also don't know who will fly them, because these experts also told me that all the Qantas A380 pilots will be made redundant once jobseeker ends, which had already ended. Apparently Qantas was only hanging on these pilots just to collect jobkeeper just to make their balance sheets (income) look better and not because Qantas might actually need them again one day.

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This is great news, congratulations to all the 380 crews, hope it seeís you all back at work soon.
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Originally Posted by a_pilot View Post
That can't be right. For the past 18 months all the experts have been telling me that the Qantas A380 will "never ever" fly again. It's dead, it's over. It will never fly again. This is the end of the quad jets.

I also don't know who will fly them, because these experts also told me that all the Qantas A380 pilots will be made redundant once jobseeker ends, which had already ended. Apparently Qantas was only hanging on these pilots just to collect jobkeeper just to make their balance sheets (income) look better and not because Qantas might actually need them again one day.
Surely no fool takes any notice of the constant nay-sayers - theyíre the same ones that said COVID was the end of aviation, traffic wonít be back for 5 years, blah blah blahÖ.

What a miserable bunch they must be.

Aviation is just a cycle - boom, bust, boom ad nauseum.

Great news for the 380 crews, will be great to see them back at work.
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Surely no fool takes any notice of the constant nay-sayers - theyíre the same ones that said COVID was the end of aviation, traffic wonít be back for 5 years, blah blah blahÖ.

What a miserable bunch they must be.

Aviation is just a cycle - boom, bust, boom ad nauseum.

Great news for the 380 crews, will be great to see them back at work.
great news. They all said the same about the 12 BA have too. BA start 380 ops again next week with short haul flights from London to FRA and MAD, while cabin and flight crew get back up to speed. The plan is for all 12 to return to service by March 22.
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The aircraft coming home just happened to be in Germany under maintenance. The rest are still in the Californian desert!
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great news. They all said the same about the 12 BA have too. BA start 380 ops again next week with short haul flights from London to FRA and MAD, while cabin and flight crew get back up to speed. The plan is for all 12 to return to service by March 22.
Is there any source for the concerned flights (shorthaul 380) ?
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The aircraft coming home just happened to be in Germany under maintenance. The rest are still in the Californian desert!
Was going to be sitting around for a few months, as it couldnít be scheduled in/completed until March. Instead bringing it home to have the maintenance completed here in Hanger 96.
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Damn - pesky pilots seen through the spin
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Any truth that Qantas will be running the A380 over Rex Saab 340 routes?

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Originally Posted by zambonidriver View Post
Is there any source for the concerned flights (shorthaul 380) ?
https://mediacentre.britishairways.c...nce-march-2020

https://simpleflying.com/british-air...ort-haul-a380/
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I was one of many who didnít think the QF A380ís would return to service because the economics of the aircraft are marginal in normal operations over long routes. For the sake of the A380 crews Iím happy to be wrong.

I suspect that Qantas had to bring them back as they donít have sufficient capacity in long range twins to fly the routes. The A350 will probably be ordered fairly soon and it will pair with the B787 doing long range, point to point routes, with the A380 being moved to medium range (9-11 hours) routes where it has much better potential to be profitable.

I think that everyone agrees that international flying and, airlines in general, will be significantly different post pandemic.
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The return of 10 A380's it amazing news for everybody in mainline, even those who are not, or have no intention of flying the A380. It's potentialy 100 commands, 100 first officer and 200 second officer positions that don't have to be distributed (through the RIN process) to the remaining LH fleets. It's a game changer for everybody. Hooray!
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Originally Posted by SandyPalms View Post
The return of 10 A380's it amazing news for everybody in mainline, even those who are not, or have no intention of flying the A380. It's potentialy 100 commands, 100 first officer and 200 second officer positions that don't have to be distributed (through the RIN process) to the remaining LH fleets. It's a game changer for everybody. Hooray!
43 Captains, 41 F/Os, and 113 S/Os once the current training allocations flow through.

But your point is well made.
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43 Captains, 41 F/Os, and 113 S/Os once the current training allocations flow through.

But your point is well made.
true Keg. I should have included positions that will need to be allocated as well, not just the RIN. Terrific news
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Originally Posted by Going Boeing View Post
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I suspect that Qantas had to bring them back as they donít have sufficient capacity in long range twins to fly the routes. The A350 will probably be ordered fairly soon and it will pair with the B787 doing long range, point to point routes, with the A380 being moved to medium range (9-11 hours) routes where it has much better potential to be profitable.
Qantas has plenty of capacity, and will get more with the plan to run A330s to HNL. A380s are coming back to service ports that are slot limited, LHR and LAX being prime examples, thatís itís sweet spot and the airline has stated as such.
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Originally Posted by Going Boeing View Post
I think that everyone agrees that international flying and, airlines in general, will be significantly different post pandemic.
I agree - theyíll be leaner, and busier!
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Originally Posted by zambonidriver View Post
Is there any source for the concerned flights (shorthaul 380) ?
my roster. Which Iím not going to post here. But in all seriousness, itís literally the first result on google if you searchÖhttps://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/brit...-a380-returns/
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Originally Posted by Going Boeing
I think that everyone agrees that international flying and, airlines in general, will be significantly different post pandemic.
It wonít be significantly different at all. Airport terminals and flights in the now open parts of the globe are choc-a-bloc!
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