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Checkboard 30th Jun 2021 16:10

It's raining cats and dogs on board.
 
Pets to be allowed in the cabin on commercial flights?


nonsense 30th Jun 2021 17:27


Originally Posted by Checkboard (Post 11071076)
Pets to be allowed in the cabin on commercial flights?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqNEtvU-WVY

It's Alan Jones. No point in responding to anything Alan Jones says.

ShyTorque 30th Jun 2021 20:49

I was on an internal flight to Florida a few years back. Someone had a small parrot in a travel cage with them. It escaped when we were at cruising altitude and it flew the full length of the cabin then perched on the back of a seat near me. It was harmless but the terrified reaction of some passengers was surprisingly hilarious. One chap wanted it put off the plane! Another claimed he would now get bird 'flu and would be suing the airline. Another one almost dived to the floor. All grown men...at first glance, anyway.

Veruka Salt 30th Jun 2021 22:19

Cats & dogs (up to a certain size) are allowed in cabin on plenty of airlines. Off the top of my head: American, Air Canada, Thai, Turkish, Lufthansa …….

Lead Balloon 30th Jun 2021 22:37

I'll be bringing my companion horse.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....098a1a0145.jpg

Chronic Snoozer 30th Jun 2021 22:54


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11071146)
I was on an internal flight to Florida a few years back. Someone had a small parrot in a travel cage with them. It escaped when we were at cruising altitude and it flew the full length of the cabin then perched on the back of a seat near me. It was harmless but the terrified reaction of some passengers was surprisingly hilarious. One chap wanted it put off the plane! Another claimed he would now get bird 'flu and would be suing the airline. Another one almost dived to the floor. All grown men...at first glance, anyway.


neville_nobody 1st Jul 2021 00:15

What are CASA smoking with such daft regulation? A quick google search of what has happened overseas with this should be reason enough to ban all animals except guide dogs in the cabin. Then when the inevitable happens and someone gets bitten or urinated on by an animal how are the regulator and the airlines going to defend it? Where is the duty of care? How will they defend a small child getting mauled?

I don't understand how CASA can be so ridiculously pedantic in the way they regulate aviation in this country yet they will allow such stupidity as this. It's an offence for the captain to take a toilet break during flight but bring on your emotion support donkey and pitbull no problems.

AerialPerspective 1st Jul 2021 01:08


Originally Posted by Veruka Salt (Post 11071180)
Cats & dogs (up to a certain size) are allowed in cabin on plenty of airlines. Off the top of my head: American, Air Canada, Thai, Turkish, Lufthansa …….

Falcons are popular on Middle-East carriers.......

VolLibre 1st Jul 2021 01:40

Remove cat before flight
 

Lead Balloon 1st Jul 2021 01:50

FIFY:

Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 11071215)
<snip> I don't understand how CASA can be so ridiculously pedantic in the way they regulate some aspects of aviation in this country yet they will allow such stupidity as this. It's an offence for the captain to take a toilet break during flight but bring on your emotion support donkey and pitbull no problems.

CASA probably did a survey of punters and asked them:

(1) Would you feel more comfortable on a flight if you could bring a companion animal?

(2) Would you feel comfortable on a flight if the pilot in command left the cockpit?

nonsense 1st Jul 2021 03:14


Originally Posted by nonsense (Post 11071097)
It's Alan Jones. No point in responding to anything Alan Jones says.

OK, now we have a mainstream media report rather than Alan Jones trying to provoke outrage:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-are-hesitant

Tubman601 1st Jul 2021 03:22

That would be awesome, I can smell when my German Shepherd takes a dump in the yard 10 metres away, that would go down well in a sealed cabin. Closely followed by 50 people vomiting.

PoppaJo 1st Jul 2021 03:52


Originally Posted by Tubman601 (Post 11071265)
That would be awesome, I can smell when my German Shepherd takes a dump in the yard 10 metres away, that would go down well in a sealed cabin. Closely followed by 50 people vomiting.

I was going to say half the passengers on many of my fights act just as bad as that.

We are a nation of snowflakes. I can’t be bothered dealing with all the Karen’s down back wanting to speak to my team about other people’s dogs and cats on every bloody flight.

Perhaps Rex being a country battler airline they could let its pax bring the whole farm yard onboard. Plenty of empty seats to strap in the whole gang.

compressor stall 1st Jul 2021 05:28


Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 11071238)
FIFY:
CASA probably did a survey of punters and asked them:

(1) Would you feel more comfortable on a flight if you could bring a companion animal?

(2) Would you feel comfortable on a flight if the pilot in command left the cockpit?

brilliant!👍

blind pew 1st Jul 2021 06:36

Descent
 
Used to rain cats and dogs on me during descent on the DC10...had it in business class on a BA747 flying to ANC which turned out one of the crew had plugged the overflow in the first class galley sink and forgotten it.

Anti Skid On 1st Jul 2021 06:56


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11071272)
I was going to say half the passengers on many of my fights act just as bad as that.

We are a nation of snowflakes. I can’t be bothered dealing with all the Karen’s down back wanting to speak to my team about other people’s dogs and cats on every bloody flight.

Perhaps Rex being a country battler airline they could let its pax bring the whole farm yard onboard. Plenty of empty seats to strap in the whole gang.

A mate of mine was SLF in Siberia; on board were chickens, ducks and piglets, not in cages but on the laps of passengers. He was on the 'European' seats (the ones with a belt with a buckle). The locals had trouser belts or rope as their seat belts.

junior.VH-LFA 1st Jul 2021 07:07


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 11071215)
What are CASA smoking with such daft regulation? A quick google search of what has happened overseas with this should be reason enough to ban all animals except guide dogs in the cabin. Then when the inevitable happens and someone gets bitten or urinated on by an animal how are the regulator and the airlines going to defend it? Where is the duty of care? How will they defend a small child getting mauled?

I don't understand how CASA can be so ridiculously pedantic in the way they regulate aviation in this country yet they will allow such stupidity as this. It's an offence for the captain to take a toilet break during flight but bring on your emotion support donkey and pitbull no problems.

I’ve been pissed on by human PAX before while they were drunk. I’d prefer the dog.

SOPS 1st Jul 2021 07:23

Actually, some of the people I see flying these days.. I’d prefer the dog.

Buttscratcher 1st Jul 2021 09:38

Hang on...look at the bright side....we could have 'Bring your dog to work day'.

ShyTorque 1st Jul 2021 09:54


Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 11071238)
FIFY:
CASA probably did a survey of punters and asked them:

(1) Would you feel more comfortable on a flight if you could bring a companion animal?

(2) Would you feel comfortable on a flight if the pilot in command left the cockpit?

1) Wouldn’t bother me either way.

2) Depends if he was wearing a parachute.

machtuk 1st Jul 2021 10:20

During an emerg Evac do the animals get left behind? Be interesting to see how some animals behave when the humans panic! We humans fart as pressure drops, some dogs will stink the cabin out!
Dumb idea!

cattletruck 1st Jul 2021 11:53

Would that be a seat next to a window, isle, dog, cat, pony, parakeet...

What would you like, chicken, beef, whiskers, chum, hay, sunflower seeds...

deja vu 2nd Jul 2021 10:24


Originally Posted by nonsense (Post 11071259)
OK, now we have a mainstream media report rather than Alan Jones trying to provoke outrage:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-are-hesitant

The Guardian is "mainstream media", thats the funniest thing I've heard for donkeys years, what was that quote about sin attached to Alan Jones comments?

thunderbird five 2nd Jul 2021 11:20

Raining cats and dogs?
There was a cargo plane carrying Nissan gearbox parts that exploded midair.
They say it was raining Datsun cogs.

HillpigSmytheIII 3rd Jul 2021 01:45

Simple: as PIC only seeing eye dogs allowed on my aircraft!

flightleader 3rd Jul 2021 04:47

Understood! Only PIC’s seeing eye dog allowed.:}

Ex FSO GRIFFO 3rd Jul 2021 08:40

# 25 is the WINNER !!

rcoight 3rd Jul 2021 10:47


Originally Posted by deja vu (Post 11072020)
The Guardian is "mainstream media", thats the funniest thing I've heard for donkeys years, what was that quote about sin attached to Alan Jones comments?

Thanks. Saved me from writing that.

Ken Borough 3rd Jul 2021 11:56

I don’t have a dog in this race but it’s a pretty crazy idea, especially as the airlines have weightier things
to consider at the moment. But then, maybe it’s not a novel idea: I’ve seen plenty of passengers in First Class cabins behaving like pigs! Perhaps this proposal would legitimise their behaviour?

DeRated 4th Jul 2021 02:32

For some of the old(er) PNG crew - I remember Bob Walton at Hoskins checking under laplaps for breast feeding piglets in the 1970's on AirNuiGini F27s and DC3s.

Ascend Charlie 4th Jul 2021 05:11

I'd prefer a well-tended pig on the seat to having a PNG highlander wearing assgrass plonk his rear end on it.

Shackeng 4th Jul 2021 10:48

Sh*teHawks
 

Originally Posted by AerialPerspective (Post 11071228)
Falcons are popular on Middle-East carriers.......

Yep, I operated a gold plated luxury 707 for a Sheikh back in the day. After landing the carpets were often covered in bird poo.

WingNut60 4th Jul 2021 14:25


Originally Posted by Shackeng (Post 11072972)
Yep, I operated a gold plated luxury 707 for a Sheikh back in the day. After landing the carpets were often covered in bird poo.

So, did someone have to spook the birds at departure to lower the take-off weight?

Shackeng 4th Jul 2021 14:43


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 11073074)
So, did someone have to spook the birds at departure to lower the take-off weight?

Yes we tried that, we wondered if the pax might shoot them though as they invariably climbed on with loaded weapons. Fortunately the plane was fitted with STAN (I think it was called) which gave the A/C actual weight while on the ground.

megan 5th Jul 2021 00:07


did someone have to spook the birds at departure to lower the take-off weight?
I'm afraid that won't change a thing. :8

Roj approved 5th Jul 2021 00:15


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 11073074)
So, did someone have to spook the birds at departure to lower the take-off weight?

Didn’t Charles Lindbergh disprove this?

Car RAMROD 5th Jul 2021 04:00


Originally Posted by megan (Post 11073301)
I'm afraid that won't change a thing. :8

Maybe if they were on a conveyor belt too?

cirrus32 5th Jul 2021 04:12

Not just for the big boys - it means I won't have to keep renewing my permit ($$) to have my suitably restrained and well behaved dog in the back seat of my 172!

deja vu 5th Jul 2021 09:55

Anyone cruel enough to subject their pets to the horrors of domestic air travel in Australia should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.


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