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RodH 18th Jan 2022 20:20

As Ken Borough has posted most of the DC9's were sold of in the early eighties when the B737-200's were introduced to replace them.

1A_Please 18th Jan 2022 21:02

Seriously, we have had nearly 20 posts about renaming Virgin to Ansett on the basis of a consortium that Bain is a member of buying the training business that has continued to use the Ansett name. The poster was being sarcastic but, in true web style, it has been conflated as some form of truth and then diverged into repeating arguments from 2001 when AN went under. Let's just say there is ZERO evidence that Virgin has any intention to change its name. It was an attempt at humour.

There is also ZERO evidence that the training business will be integrated at all with Virgin. It is a profitable business that counts all 4 Australian airlines as customers as well as a number of international airlines. The consortium that bought it will want to continue that profitability.


VH-ABC 18th Jan 2022 21:43

You’re looking to Pprune for straight talking, no nonsense journalism?

Transition Layer 19th Jan 2022 10:55


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11171446)
As an Ex Ansett pilot.. genuine question, what happened to the DC 9s? They were before my time.

Pretty sure they’re still operating under the Cobham/NJS/QantasLink brand :}

PoppaJo 27th Jan 2022 03:06

The Australian is reporting today a 2023 IPO, with Bain still holding at least half for the time being.

43Inches 27th Jan 2022 03:29


There is also ZERO evidence that the training business will be integrated at all with Virgin. It is a profitable business that counts all 4 Australian airlines as customers as well as a number of international airlines. The consortium that bought it will want to continue that profitability.
Virgin mothership is still a part owner of VA so the name will not change anytime soon, more likely the Ansett name will be replaced in the other if any changes.

Cravenmorehead 27th Jan 2022 22:55


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11172115)
Pretty sure they’re still operating under the Cobham/NJS/QantasLink brand :}

Oh dear that's a bit mean!!! I mean to say NJS no longer own Q_jet anymore.

DanV2 28th Jan 2022 00:01


Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11175741)
Virgin mothership is still a part owner of VA so the name will not change anytime soon, more likely the Ansett name will be replaced in the other if any changes.

5% stake only which has very minimal (if any) influence at the table.

43Inches 28th Jan 2022 00:08


5% stake only which has very minimal (if any) influence at the table.
That 5% is so they can ensure they know what is happening at the business and that it complies with the Virgin Groups agenda. Then they can cut off any moves to ditch or trash the brand early on via legal intervention. What happened at Virgin America where Virgin group fought quite hard to get significant financial recompense when the airline moved to rebrand whilst still in contract. You have to remember Virgin group makes cash simply from the use of the brand, and the brand is locked in for x amount of years, now hidden behind closed doors as it's no longer subject to public disclosure.

Icarus2001 28th Jan 2022 06:17


Oh dear that's a bit mean!!! I mean to say NJS no longer own Q_jet anymore.
I think you are confused. Perhaps mixing up the names.

airdualbleedfault 29th Jan 2022 00:23


Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead (Post 11176220)
Oh dear that's a bit mean!!! I mean to say NJS no longer own Q_jet anymore.

I think the Qjet op is now owned by Kwantarse and called National Jet?
Yes its confusing

aussieflyboy 29th Jan 2022 02:47


Originally Posted by airdualbleedfault (Post 11176781)
I think the Qjet op is now owned by Kwantarse and called National Jet?
Yes its confusing

I think it was always called National Jet and Cobham bought it, then sold/gave it away to Qantas. My understanding is that National Jet was flying Qantas passengers (Airlink) domestically prior to Qantas having a Domestic airline.

PoppaJo 31st Jan 2022 00:16

Oh look MM is back running airlines again. All the Virgin Alumni ending up in Canada. :yuk: :yuk:

https://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/na...rriers-5008619

Australopithecus 31st Jan 2022 02:10

She's going to get her derrière handed to her after she tries to weather a Canadian winter’s worth of de-icing bills. I think she held the door open for me at the Banff Springs hotel once. Small world.

Icarus2001 31st Jan 2022 09:19


“We're not really about targeting or taking share away from our competitors, we're actually about enticing more people to fly and growing the market," she says.
Sound familiar? These guys all sing from the same hymn sheet but somehow it just never seems to play out the way they hoped.


Before taking a career break just before the pandemic struck, McArthur shifted to CEO of Virgin Australia's low-cost Tigerair Australia in 2018, where she assembled a management team that achieved gender parity.
So that was the best comment that they could come up with for her entire time at Tiger. Priceless.

30/30 Green Light 31st Jan 2022 18:52

LCC expert based in London
 
Wasn't the referenced "expert" in the Pique article ex VB/VA?

Icarus2001 31st Jan 2022 22:01

Yes indeed. Virgin Blue, VARA and Tiger all benefitted from her knowledge and experience.

Paragraph377 31st Jan 2022 22:54

And the arrogant and self absorbed Diederek Pen is also over there in Canuck land. Maybe Godfrey and Sherrard will turn up and it will be one big former VA/VB executive party? I hope these LCC’s have all hedged their fuel correctly as Brent crude hit $90 US per barrel a few days ago. I think it is $88 per barrel today. All you need is yet another pointless war in the Middle East and oil will crack the $100 per barrel mark again. Then we will see who the real CEO’s are.

PPRuNeUser0198 26th Feb 2022 22:57

A recent segment on the globally acclaimed 'A Current Affair' aired a few days ago. Interesting comment made by Jayne at the 6.23 minute mark 'jobs are safe'...


Mr Google Head 27th Feb 2022 03:02


Originally Posted by T-Vasis (Post 11191222)
A recent segment on the globally acclaimed 'A Current Affair' aired a few days ago. Interesting comment made by Jayne at the 6.23 minute mark 'jobs are safe'...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNC0V5IYFXY

What’s so interesting? Are you suggesting jobs are not safe? Even if they weren’t…is the CEO going to say so on said globally acclaimed show 🤣


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