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You've given the cranks more ammunition by mentioning Bill Gates.
There are a horrifying number of imbeciles here who are convinced he's behind the vaccine in order to inject everybody with some sort of bio-chip in readiness for a new world order. There are also some loonies who think the jab alters DNA, and others, I think largely among the Asian community, who think it causes sterility after 12 months. |
Originally Posted by EvaDestruction
(Post 11036906)
Dr. Dre
I'm glad things are coming up roses Down Under. And I'm glad you have a nice pair of Rose Colored Glasses on to view the world around you. In the US and the rest of the world, they've been issued under EUA because there were no human tests done on them. Rather, the human tests are being done on a massive scale, on the public. As of about 3 weeks ago here in the US, more than half the population, 175 million out of 330, have been jabbed. Because no such gene-editing drugs have ever been administered to humans before, we are in uncharted territory. We have nothing to go on. The few animal tests done with the drugs here in the US were done only on rats, and they quickly noticed that the pregnant rats lost their pregnancies. Apparently these dangerous cocktails have a strong influence on the placenta, as the same thing has happened here in the US to pregnant women, they lost their pregnancies. So keep those Rose Colored Glasses fixed firmly to your face, because in the next 6 months or so it's very likely the stuff will be hitting the fan. Call me cynical, but I don't see the advantage to taking a dangerous experimental shot to supposedly protect against a virus with a 99% survival rate. It doesn't make sense to me. To Australopithecus, I'm sorry I rained on your parade. Life can be cruel you know, and too many times the bloody truth can be painful. The US is the modern day Roman Empire, teetering on the edge of self destruction because of the stupidity of some (not all, but enough) of its population, tied up with the obsession that people are trying to take their toys (guns) and make them eat their vegetables (get a vaccine). Good luck to you all. I’ll get the jab and live happily ever after. |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 11037209)
Facts:
2.2 million doses administered Australia. Pfizer negative reactions One case of anaphylaxis in a person with a history of anaphylaxis One case of a blood clot in a man with a history of DVT. AZ negative reactions 4 cases of non fatal clots, link to vaccine or underlying conditions undetermined 2 cases of fatal clots in a person with diabetes and the second case where the TGA determined no link between vaccine and clots (up to 50 people per day report to Emergency Rooms in Australia with serious blood clots) Out of 2.2 million vaccines, the majority of which were AZ. So no deaths due to AZ proven to been caused by the vaccine in those without underlying conditions, and in those with underlying conditions it's about 1 in a million, so less chance than the risk of dying in a car crash, drowning, falling off a ladder, being hit by lightning or being murdered. And you're eligible for the other one anyway. 3000 Australians die per week. 50 Australians per day develop blood clots. Eventually enough people will be vaccinated and fall into one of the above cohorts, and the media will sensationally report it, which will then fuel hesitancy and the anti-vaxxer rhetoric. |
I think like most things it's much easier to think of the Covid-19 vaccination in terms of risk.
Not having the vaccination increases the community risk. For a small but not insignificant percentage of the population Covid-19 is a death sentence. It need not be. Having the vaccination carries a very small risk that you will be crippled for life or even die. It need not be but this is because the vaccine is new and not fully tested. Now to put this risk in perspective. Driving a vehicle carries far more risk of permanent injury or death to yourself or someone else (community). If you walked into a car dealership and the salesperson started off telling you about all the risks involved in driving a vehicle you would probably decide the risks are just way too high and walk out. Back to topic. Those that got the vaccine, were you allowed to pick which arm got injected, was the derriere an option? |
Originally Posted by cattletruck
(Post 11037374)
Back to topic. Those that got the vaccine, were you allowed to pick which arm got injected, was the derriere an option? yes please, back on topic. it’d be nice to keep this thread to the intended purpose and not have it go off on the pro or anti vaccine tangents. yes I got to pick which arm. Didn’t ask about the behind though. |
Originally Posted by cattletruck
(Post 11037374)
...were you allowed to pick which arm got injected, was the derriere an option?
I wouldn’t drop your daks without warning them first. |
Derriere certainly wasn't offered or suggested here and I haven't heard of it as an option.
Whether it would be available on request is a different matter but as it would mean a private appointment rather than the current mass vaccination system, I would imagine it would only be if there was a genuine medical reason. |
Originally Posted by DHfan
(Post 11037390)
Derriere certainly wasn't offered or suggested here and I haven't heard of it as an option.
Whether it would be available on request is a different matter but as it would mean a private appointment rather than the current mass vaccination system, I would imagine it would only be if there was a genuine medical reason. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1118997/ |
When we're trying to vaccinate billions of people in as short a time as possible, that's not a reason to take at least five times as long on every jab.
If it was that important, why have I never heard of vaccinations - against anything - anywhere other than an arm? |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 11037247)
Are they being "intellectually lazy" or sprouting "hard left identity politics"?
Keep posting more references though :rolleyes: |
having posted on here a couple of times about lack of reaction to the shots from everyone I know - in all fairness I have to report a lady I know locally (female early 40's) had an Astra Zeneca first shot at the weekend and spent 36 hours with a full set of 'flu symptoms - aches, headache, not eating, sleeping etc etc. Then it was like switching the light back on and she rejoined humanity within 30 minutes apparently and is totally normal.
The quack reckoned that younger folk have stronger, working anti-immune system |
How far away is the headline…..
"Vaccinated driver dies in high speed crash"……" the driver, who had been vaccinated the previous day with the Astra-Zeneca vaccine, was seen behaving erratically at the Bandywallop Hotel before he drove off, later leaving the road and colliding with a tree at high speed." |
" It washhh the vyrusshhh oisssifer, it wash really - I do like your neat hat, giz a kiss"
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Pfizer x 2
so far the only side effect is even more disdain for moron anti vaxxers. |
Would a glass of wine or three assist in getting through the doldrums should there be any annoying side affects? Does the immune reaction care if you're a bit tipsy or not? Is there any professional advice against going down this path whilst remaining in the safety of your own home?
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The temperance cranks said don't drink for a couple of days before and afterwards but a UK medical authority said there's no evidence alcohol lowers the vaccine's effect.
Presumably it's only been checked for in moderation, and not for a skinful... |
Getting back to the Post topic, I had my first dose of the second class citizens' vaccine on Tuesday PM. I am a healthy and fit 62 without ever having had an adverse or allergic reaction to anything other than the antimalarial Fansidar. After 30 minutes, 15 minutes after leaving the vaccine centre, a headache set in. It became progressively worse and I took a couple of Panadol a few hours later. Headache continued and I developed a congested feeling in my head but without any phlegm or snot type issues, that is it felt like cold symptoms but without the cold.
When I went to bed that night, I began uncontrollable and violent shivering for about an hour. The shivers settled down a little to normal type shivering that persisted until about 4 in the morning at which time my body temperature finally felt almost normal. At that point, I would have gone to the hospital but I live remotely and no doctor is available without a two hour drive. The headache persisted. Wednesday, I was fatigued and felt as bad as I ever had. By this stage, I still had the headache but also now was suffering from a complete lack of sleep. Woke this morning feeling fine. |
Kelly,
Originally Posted by Asturias56 on page 7
The quack reckoned that younger folk have stronger, working anti-immune system
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Originally Posted by cattletruck
(Post 11039105)
Would a glass of wine or three assist in getting through the doldrums should there be any annoying side affects? Does the immune reaction care if you're a bit tipsy or not? Is there any professional advice against going down this path whilst remaining in the safety of your own home?
The night before my first jab, I organised a fine wine tasting in Hong Kong with medical professionals. I don’t believe there was any science to suggest problems with alcohol and the vaccination. My second jab was late March, I had a few wines watching the footy and barely any side effects. Perhaps quality wine thins the blood? Helps against clotting? LOL that’s my “science”. Hong Kong has a magnificent vaccination scheme. Slick and efficient. Uptake has been poor due to political resistance ( thumbing government since you can’t throw Molotov Cocktails these days ) and superstition or anti-vax lack of logic. Other factors being there’s no need to vaccinate due low cases and not allowed to travel anyways. Stock market up and property market up so most doing well enough to be selfish and lack urgency. After all the BS virtual signalling with masks to protect your neighbour, an Asian courtesy so the community claimed, now they have a real opportunity to protect their neighbours but now way! Asses- just awaiting similar Aussies. |
My wife & I both just had our first jabs at our local clinic / medical centre in Perth - AstraZenica.
Administered by nurse but overseen by doctor. Both feeling fine so far and so are we. Doctor spent a little more time with my wife (Asian) asking her to tell all of her friends that it was a non-event. I'm guessing because there is a perceived or observed reluctance or indifference to vaccination within the Asian community. If it all turns to crap later today then one of us will let you know. |
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