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John Citizen 4th Aug 2020 02:15


Don't like it, then don't apply. Stay with Uber..
Ridiculous requirements, no one will meet and ever apply. Stay without a pilot.....

maverick22 4th Aug 2020 02:27

So does the applicant need to have their own AOC as well to offer flight training to the owner?

Turnleft080 4th Aug 2020 03:39

Bob and Doug can't even apply

brokenagain 4th Aug 2020 03:50

Interesting that the ad is no longer on AFAP.

KRUSTY 34 4th Aug 2020 05:00


Originally Posted by brokenagain (Post 10852671)
Interesting that the ad is no longer on AFAP.

There you go, another successful candidate.

Just kidding. But I did like Icarus and AOA’s idea.

KRviator 4th Aug 2020 09:14


Originally Posted by brokenagain (Post 10852671)
Interesting that the ad is no longer on AFAP.

Still there. Here it is...

As for who you'd be flying for, well, They'd love to hear from you, so why not email 'em and tell them what you think of their minimums. The email address from their pilot ad is the same.

Angle of Attack 4th Aug 2020 09:33

Regardless of LOP operation with it flying 200 hours per year you’d make far more doing a Man and Ute operation per annum, this is obviously targeted at a retiree who has nothing else to do, although current IR rating and Instructor? Hmmm good luck.

Angle of Attack 4th Aug 2020 09:48

I just emailed a CV for laughs, run down,

Total Time - 4999.0 hours ( but I can hire a C150 for an hour at own cost to make the shortfall)
Big bores Continental Engines - More than a thousand hours (I fitted a third pod to the Seminole during IFR training, big bore engine windmilling, man that 2 engine out performance was really bad!)
Lean of Peak Experience - Lots of experience only 17 cracked Cylinders in 4999 hours, includes 1 cracked in a C150 (It was a piece of junk anyway
1000 hours regional flying, Yep with 4999 hours I can safely say 1000 was in a Regional areas. I landed on lots of Bush Strips, including RWY 18
at YBSU, it got closed because of short length and dangerous crosswinds, and that was in a Jabiru...
Small Pressurised Airplanes, Once I was transporting LPG gas’s cylinders which leaked the entire flight, pressurised my C172 cockpit, had to manage the pressurisation to avoid explosion.(ie put the ciggy out)
IFR ? Yeah of course I do follow roads, Class 1 medical? Don’t be silly that’s a given. In fact it’s a Class 0.99 medical, even better than the 1.0 version. 0.99% of requirements met is what I mean..





Xeptu 4th Aug 2020 11:42

Thankyou for your application, you have progressed to our short list. We will contact you to arrange an interview.
Please advise if you have any wheels up landing experience.

LapSap 4th Aug 2020 14:35

Standby for the A Current Affair ..”we advertised, nobody wants to work...” story, coming soon.



Turnleft080 4th Aug 2020 15:21


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 10852868)
I just emailed a CV for laughs, run down,

Total Time - 4999.0 hours ( but I can hire a C150 for an hour at own cost to make the shortfall)
Big bores Continental Engines - More than a thousand hours (I fitted a third pod to the Seminole during IFR training, big bore engine windmilling, man that 2 engine out performance was really bad!)
Lean of Peak Experience - Lots of experience only 17 cracked Cylinders in 4999 hours, includes 1 cracked in a C150 (It was a piece of junk anyway
1000 hours regional flying, Yep with 4999 hours I can safely say 1000 was in a Regional areas. I landed on lots of Bush Strips, including RWY 18
at YBSU, it got closed because of short length and dangerous crosswinds, and that was in a Jabiru...
Small Pressurised Airplanes, Once I was transporting LPG gas’s cylinders which leaked the entire flight, pressurised my C172 cockpit, had to manage the pressurisation to avoid explosion.(ie put the ciggy out)
IFR ? Yeah of course I do follow roads, Class 1 medical? Don’t be silly that’s a given. In fact it’s a Class 0.99 medical, even better than the 1.0 version. 0.99% of requirements met is what I mean..

Dear Angle of Attack
My name is Richard Jones I'm the Flight Director of NASA's new space shuttle program working in coordination with
SpaceX program.
Our new space shuttle program consists of 6 brand new shuttles that are presently in assembly (first one will roll out next week)
will have glass and touch screen flight controls.
I know it's not the appropriate time and place (on PPrune) to advise you that we have throughly analysed with a fine tooth comb
of your credentials, your aptitude and knowledge of operating technical equipment. We NASA are extremely happy to invite you
to our program, interview permitting, which is a formality. Your selection is important to us in that of diversifying our crew, providing an
Aussie (Andy being the first) located around the Tropic of Capricorn, will demonstrate the world coming together.
I must say your C150 time more importantly operating a Seminole with 3 continental engines is exactly the person we are looking
for as it replicates the back end of a space shuttle tri-motor thrust dynamics.
Since you have cracked 17 cylinders, we know for sure your highly unlikely to do a 18th. Word of advice with your NASA interview
you maybe asked, What do you do when we call for throttle up? Answer, apply mixture full rich. You may also add, this happens
at FL500 at Mach 2. which also represents burning an Olympic size swimming pool of fuel every 25sec.That will show the interview
panel you have done your homework.
Having expertise in LPG in pressurising C172 also demonstrates your chemistry is fundamental as we deal with a lot of gas/liquids that are
stored in large tanks. Your class 1 or any lower is well above the fitness levels for experiencing any degree of G force.
Finally I'm attaching this youtube vid to give you inspiration and an example of the shuttle's handling characteristics.
Very shortly you will liaise with our Chief NASA test director, Assit NASA test director on other protocols.
I hope you take this opportunity to advance your career and we very much look forward to welcoming you to the team.
However if you decide to decline our offer we understand that flying a pressurised C210R out of YSBU certainly out rates and supersedes
any space program.
Your sincerely

Richard Jones.




jmmoric 4th Aug 2020 15:22

Noone asked what the pay was? Maybe it's really really good.... or you'd end up getting other benefits from it....

neville_nobody 4th Aug 2020 22:06

It's a gee up as there are no P210's registered or operated in QLD.

smiling monkey 4th Aug 2020 23:49

This is their email if anyone still wish to apply. [email protected] . I think I'll enquire as to how many moon landings they require.


It's a gee up as there are no P210's registered or operated in QLD.
And no P210R on the CASA register either, however there are 9 P210N's. https://www.casa.gov.au/aircraft-reg..._model%3A28596

Capt Fathom 5th Aug 2020 01:29


Originally Posted by smiling monkey (Post 10853393)

And no P210R on the CASA register either

I can see three P210R's on the register.

Mach E Avelli 5th Aug 2020 03:01

A wise friend of mine once said that all marriages are mutual rescue.
As sad as it is, they will have applicants a'plenty. They will find someone. If that someone wrecks their engine, perhaps each party will get exactly what they deserve.

plotplot 5th Aug 2020 07:29

The ad was taken down couple days ago, regardless of whether you can click a link and still see it.

I’d love to see their inbox; either they took it down due to the hate mail or afap removed it after complaints. No way it was due to an overwhelming response.

Stickshift3000 5th Aug 2020 07:42


Originally Posted by smiling monkey (Post 10853393)
This is their email if anyone still wish to apply. [email protected]

Investment fund manager:
https://www.lagunabay.com.au/

Angle of Attack 5th Aug 2020 09:12

At 200 hours a year at GA award of a tad over $70 per hour you would get 14k a year.....but possibly shared between a few pilots!
For info Jobseeker without Corona supplement is currently $14700 per year. It has to be a pi$$take.....

KRviator 5th Aug 2020 09:55

You'd like to think so, but if that's the case, why include an actual email address linked to a real company instead of some random gmail address? Vengeful ex-employee maybe? 200 hours a year across multiple states in a 210 is what? 1 trip a fortnight?

More to the point, how could AOPA be willing to host it without cross-checking it's legit? And why is it still available on their website - even if the jobs-page link has been removed?


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