Disregard, finger trouble
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So .. the USA is now reporting 1000 deaths a day from Covid. Yep.. I can see it now. Thousands of Australians wanting to fly to the US!!
And by the way BNE.. it appears that Victoria is about to go into complete lock down as of Wednesday. Perhaps one of the things we will have to adapt to is that Travel Agents ( like your family owned corner service station) are now a thing of the past. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 10850920)
Perhaps one of the things we will have to adapt to is that Travel Agents ( like your family owned corner service station) are now a thing of the past.
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No idea on pax numbers between the US and Australia but perhaps the freight is lucrative enough to justify the trip? I saw Delta still does a daily LAX-SYD and plans to continue, gotta be something in it for the US airlines.
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Originally Posted by LostWanderer
(Post 10851188)
No idea on pax numbers between the US and Australia but perhaps the freight is lucrative enough to justify the trip? I saw Delta still does a daily LAX-SYD and plans to continue, gotta be something in it for the US airlines.
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Freighter are 'reportedly' largely subsidising the SFO-SYD (UA) and LAX-SYD (DL) flights according to the MSM. Any passengers (mostly repatriation in both directions) would be a bonus for those carriers.
Perhaps TT738 also known as BNEA320 should be a car/truck salesman. It's a quick adaption from being in the Travel Agency business. |
Originally Posted by Australopithecus
(Post 10851210)
Apparently you can make money flying just belly freight in a 777. As far as passengers go...hmmm. While there is cautious optimism about a vaccine sometime in early 2021, the US has just stripped 32 million unemployed of any income support. I wonder how it plays out if that lasts more than a few days?
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Nice to see the Australian Government supporting all those foreign airlines :cool:
https://www.austrade.gov.au/ArticleD...edule.pdf.aspx |
Originally Posted by TerryCherry
(Post 10851680)
Oz and NZ wasting time. They wont stop this virus. They need to allow it to spread so some healthy people get herd immunity. The last 4 months have been wasted as they are essentially starting from 0 now.
What you really mean is that we need to kill off about 300,000 people so that you won’t be inconvenienced. Which makes you reprehensible. |
Originally Posted by TerryCherry
(Post 10851680)
Oz and NZ wasting time. They wont stop this virus. They need to allow it to spread so some healthy people get herd immunity. The last 4 months have been wasted as they are essentially starting from 0 now.
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus
(Post 10851854)
...And the Dr. Josef Mengele prize in amateur epidemiology goes to...
What you really mean is that we need to kill off about 300,000 people so that you won’t be inconvenienced. Which makes you reprehensible. ...And the Donald Trump hyperbolic exaggeration prize goes to.... I see you've been using those highly accurate UCol London CFR models to boost your otherwise correct assertion that herd immunity aint going to fly. |
Originally Posted by RubberDogPoop
(Post 10851920)
...And the Donald Trump hyperbolic exaggeration prize goes to....
I see you've been using those highly accurate UCol London CFR models to boost your otherwise correct assertion that herd immunity aint going to fly. On a less hyperbolic note: There still is a lot of noise in the data with CFR and IFR getting jumbled. Apparently IFR isn’t typically known until a widespread serological study is done after a disease outbreak and statistical tools employed. The increased testing is starting to dilute the numbers somewhat over a classic CFR value owing to the inclusion of cases that otherwise would never be in the data. The US numbers seem to be around 3-4% of the reported cases with an important caveat. Birx said yesterday that the testing is showing infections earlier than was the case waiting for clinical signs, thus stretching the timeline from detection to death and skewing the data. The Americans are predicting the daily toll to increase profoundly from their already sobering 1100 daily average. So yeah, 300,000 dead would be a reasonable expectation if half of the country got Covid19 which, btw, is in the range required for the vaunted herd immunity value. But forget the exactitude of the number prediction. Just characterise it as a f**k of a lot. |
Crude fatality rate worldwide last I checked was about 0.4%..considering the large number who are asymptomatic there is most likely huge numbers of undiagnosed. At current worst case scenarios over the entire population of NZ and Aus 120000 deaths would be the ceiling not 300000
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Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 10852000)
Crude fatality rate worldwide last I checked was about 0.4%..considering the large number who are asymptomatic there is most likely huge numbers of undiagnosed. At current worst case scenarios over the entire population of NZ and Aus 120000 deaths would be the ceiling not 300000
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Ok, while we are killing people willy-nilly in this thought experiment, can someone quantify the percentage of infections which result in lifelong disability? Or even chronic quality-of-life issues? I'd hate for 99.6% of the population to escape without some memento.
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
(Post 10850635)
BNE: what's it going to take before you understand the gravity of the situation.
Victoria has fallen, 50 cases of unknown origin is deeply concerning means, untraceable impossible to contain, short of a total lockdown, expect a mass outbreak. This means you get your wish, are you happy Expect containment breach for NSW QLD and SA in the next few weeks. Victoria's hospitals most likely will collapse within a month, no more help is coming from interstate. Expect rolling power outages within weeks, particularly SA almost totally dependant on VIC for power supply. Expect water supply interruptions We have enough diesel in the country to last 3 weeks, then we'll be using Jet A1 since you won't be needing it. |
Originally Posted by Australopithecus
(Post 10851998)
So yeah, 300,000 dead would be a reasonable expectation if half of the country got Covid19 which, btw, is in the range required for the vaunted herd immunity value. But forget the exactitude of the number prediction.
And that does not mean that some 40% plus of the population needs to get covid 19. Just that some 40% plus need to have have immunity of some sort. And that there is a lot of immune people without them having had the infection has been established. |
Originally Posted by Australopithecus
(Post 10852038)
Ok, while we are killing people willy-nilly in this thought experiment, can someone quantify the percentage of infections which result in lifelong disability? Or even chronic quality-of-life issues? I'd hate for 99.6% of the population to escape without some memento.
there is absolutely no current quantifiable data on long term effects of covid19. Everything you read or see at this point is anecdotal (and therefore falls squarely into the category of panic porn) |
Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 10852601)
there is absolutely no current quantifiable data on long term effects of covid19. Everything you read or see at this point is anecdotal (and therefore falls squarely into the category of panic porn)
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Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 10852601)
there is absolutely no current quantifiable data on long term effects of covid19. Everything you read or see at this point is anecdotal (and therefore falls squarely into the category of panic porn)
Maybe, you simply aren't reading the right papers? |
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