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Ken Borough 11th Feb 2022 01:33


I thought the slots were allocated to airlines accordingly at a cost,
Not so when allocated by the airport slot co-ordinator. There is a secondary market at airports where slots are impossible to secure in which case airlines will lease or sell slots to another airline. AFAIK, Sydney requires slots to be used on a certain % of occasions. If not they revert to the pool and will be reallocated. This practice was suspended during the pandemic but I don't know if it's yet been reinstated. I stand to be corrected on any of this!

PoppaJo 11th Feb 2022 01:52

The issue is the Tiger slots, Rex say it’s not fair that Virgin get them long term, and Virgin say they plan on using them long term. I understand Rex are using some Tiger slots temporarily in the current season.

It will no doubt get interesting when things start getting busy again on both sides of the runway, probably this time next year onwards.

It’s all a bit pointless though if Rex cannot fill its Jets. I think they have proved that more frequencies, does not equal more passengers. It does for the others, not Rex. Perhaps try and fix that first.

pinkpanther1 17th Feb 2022 04:14

https://australianaviation.com.au/20...-from-6-to-30/

Rex wants to expand to 30 737s adding one a month 🤔🤔

SHVC 17th Feb 2022 04:33

Good luck I guess. Current established operated are struggling and they think adding a jet every 2-3 Mo thanks a great idea.

It will make Sydney and Melbourne gate wars interesting.

Turnleft080 17th Feb 2022 09:13

It will make Sydney and Melbourne gate wars interesting.[/QUOTE]

Pier Foxtrot is an absolute dogs breakfast. Walk out of the old Ansett/Kendell aerobridges or standoffs, you enter into an extension of Chadstone. Rex,Virgin,Jetstar aircraft are all intermixed at these gates. Rex wanting 30, VA 25 Maxes and lets throw a thumbs up for a few more Maxes, Melbourne will have a Bonza ****fight

PoppaJo 17th Feb 2022 09:52

2014-2019 Domestic capacity was flat. The capacity to be thrown at the market in the next 5 years is off the charts. Virgin I count 32 on order, Rex claim 30?, Bonza said 12, Jetstar plan around 20, the Singapore and Japan machines have already arrived. All the above appear not to be fleet replacements. Not only that, VA and JQ are adding machines that can hold an extra 25% more people.

Unless Rex is planning on upgrading its Saab fleet to 737s. They did state they had plans to create 1200 new jobs in the next 2 years (they don’t even have that many employees).

43Inches 17th Feb 2022 10:46

Melbourne has tons of gates, the problem will be runways, if things do ramp up then Virgin is going to have to find a place for all those parked planes at Melbourne. Most of the gates are occupied by parked aircraft at the moment. Sydney, that's another matter, not sure what's happened to the plans for Dom 4 and 5, seems to have stalled.

Ladloy 17th Feb 2022 19:09


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11185530)
2014-2019 Domestic capacity was flat. The capacity to be thrown at the market in the next 5 years is off the charts. Virgin I count 32 on order, Rex claim 30?, Bonza said 12, Jetstar plan around 20, the Singapore and Japan machines have already arrived. All the above appear not to be fleet replacements. Not only that, VA and JQ are adding machines that can hold an extra 25% more people.

Unless Rex is planning on upgrading its Saab fleet to 737s. They did state they had plans to create 1200 new jobs in the next 2 years (they don’t even have that many employees).

Thue have roughly 1300 employees. Most are claimed to be indirect jobs so it's just magic government accounting

airdualbleedfault 19th Feb 2022 01:39

I'm guessing JS will be praying every night that Scomo pulls off another miracle. Will be very interesting to watch him trying to get donations, sorry, grants out of Albo

PoppaJo 19th Feb 2022 02:42

Labor was going to bailout Virgin don’t forget. I do remember the scenes of Labor MPs and Shadow ministers on the pavement in front of T3, having a whinge at the Feds, in why they wouldn’t bail out a $10b mess. Labor would have rescued it. Would have been the Aussie Alitalia, in and out of rescue deals for years ahead if they saved Virgin 1.0.

Turnleft080 19th Feb 2022 04:37


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11186413)
Labor was going to bailout Virgin don’t forget. I do remember the scenes of Labor MPs and Shadow ministers on the pavement in front of T3, having a whinge at the Feds, in why they wouldn’t bail out a $10b mess. Labor would have rescued it. Would have been the Aussie Alitalia, in and out of rescue deals for years ahead if they saved Virgin 1.0.

As it turns out and now in hindsight, going into admin cleaned out all those exuberant leasing fees on the 330s and Embraers sitting idle in the States and renegotiated new leasing costs on the existing 73s. A gov handout wasn't going to cut all that. That is just talking leasing costs. Speaking of leasing costs since this is a Rex thread, PAG will want their leasing costs in full after March assuming they were in a discount arrangement for the first 12 months.

SHVC 19th Feb 2022 06:52

And I’m sure the additional 30 737s they seek will be at a higher cost as the world opens. I’m JS will spin some BS to parrot and get NSW to pay something

ontherise 22nd Feb 2022 07:24

With REX booting up its 737 FO recruitment. What are they currently offering in terms of pay?

aussieflyboy 22nd Feb 2022 07:49


Originally Posted by ontherise (Post 11187943)
With REX booting up its 737 FO recruitment. What are they currently offering in terms of pay?

Not enough.

Ladloy 22nd Feb 2022 07:57


Originally Posted by ontherise (Post 11187943)
With REX booting up its 737 FO recruitment. What are they currently offering in terms of pay?

The award. No EBA in sight.

Low Pass 22nd Feb 2022 08:41

Big drive for FOs, instant reply almost after applying. Maybe DECs can still sneak in. Guys still leaving to VA and other jobs.

Cap 180k
FO 115k (ish)
Award allowances


EBA should bring 10 DDOs a month and a flight pay threshold

Goat Whisperer 22nd Feb 2022 22:59


Cap 180k
FO 115k (ish)
Not vastly different to VA rates at the moment. VA getting 12/28 days DDO though.

Servo 23rd Feb 2022 00:44


Originally Posted by Goat Whisperer (Post 11188473)
Not vastly different to VA rates at the moment. VA getting 12/28 days DDO though.

VA Captain is on $200K for 57.5 hours before overtime kicks in. 12/28 obove 57.5 hours and 13 if below, I think.

Should be on 13 days off at the moment due to the quiet rosters, but company reneged on that (new CAE bid system delayed as the IT up and left for better conditions). Unions have let it slide...... again.

Budfox 23rd Feb 2022 01:53

Whats the go with this job everyone? Advertised again yesterday for 737 FO.
I applied last year when they previously advertised and didn't even hear anything back.
Have time on type already but whats the secret to hiring? Or am I wasting my time here.

PoppaJo 23rd Feb 2022 02:20


Originally Posted by Budfox (Post 11188501)
Whats the go with this job everyone? Advertised again yesterday for 737 FO.
I applied last year when they previously advertised and didn't even hear anything back.
Have time on type already but whats the secret to hiring? Or am I wasting my time here.

Are you ex Tiger or Virgin? Might need to wait until they cycle crews from those two places before they start looking elsewhere.


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