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regional_flyer 9th Apr 2020 22:09


Originally Posted by f1yhigh (Post 10744876)
What about all the WA intrastate FIFO flights?

FIFO flights will continue, as will the XCH/CCK run. Unless the mining sector shuts down, these flights are the one guaranteed income stream. Not operating them will cost money VA simply doesn't have.

C441 9th Apr 2020 22:32


Originally Posted by ABP (Post 10744672)
Qantas about to announce 1B737, 1A230 and 1DH8 operation too.

Qantas are operating some flights in addition to SYD-MEL…..not many, but a few.

f1yhigh 10th Apr 2020 00:44


Originally Posted by regional_flyer (Post 10745239)
FIFO flights will continue, as will the XCH/CCK run. Unless the mining sector shuts down, these flights are the one guaranteed income stream. Not operating them will cost money VA simply doesn't have.

I'm personally counting on those flights to keep working.

TBM-Legend 10th Apr 2020 01:38

VA's problem is that any pax needing to travel won't buy a ticket on them in case they shut down quickly which is what has effectively happened hence safer booking on QF which is still carrying a few on selected routes....

From inside the Govt, they are worried that any money to VA will be siphoned off to their owners and selected creditors and they don't wish to effectively fund overseas owners by the 'back door'"...

600ft-lb 10th Apr 2020 01:51


Originally Posted by regional_flyer (Post 10745239)
FIFO flights will continue, as will the XCH/CCK run. Unless the mining sector shuts down, these flights are the one guaranteed income stream. Not operating them will cost money VA simply doesn't have.

Not sure about the mining FIFO flights but to regional centres such as Karratha and Port Hedland you can't book them on the website anymore.

Pavement 10th Apr 2020 02:00


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 10745326)
VA's problem is that any pax needing to travel won't buy a ticket on them in case they shut down quickly which is what has effectively happened hence safer booking on QF which is still carrying a few on selected routes....

From inside the Govt, they are worried that any money to VA will be siphoned off to their owners and selected creditors and they don't wish to effectively fund overseas owners by the 'back door'"...

It shouldn’t be that hard. Underwrite VA and QF to operate three services a week each (differing days) between the capital cities and possibly some major regional centres. Agree a block hourly rate and provide as a rebate on service completion. Keeps air routes, and therefore connectivity, open and some people still in jobs.

Better than providing a lump sum.

veryoldchinahand 10th Apr 2020 02:58

VA operated a 777 out of Brisbane to Hong Kong at 10.30 this morning. Freight ?

ABP 10th Apr 2020 03:05


Originally Posted by veryoldchinahand (Post 10745352)
VA operated a 777 out of Brisbane to Hong Kong at 10.30 this morning. Freight ?

Repatriation flight. It continues to Paris from Hong Kong.

Square Bear 10th Apr 2020 07:47

@ Pavement

It shouldn't be that hard. Underwrite VA and QF to operate three services a week each (differing days) between the capital cities and possibly some major regional centres.


Totally agree with your comments, try and book a QF flight anywhere on the SYD BNE SYD sectors at the moment. Flights a few days in advance are unavailable more than likely due to nil seats available (they were there this morning). Try East Coast to Perth!!

Maybe VA is playing strategically in order to bargain for Govt Funding, but if not and is simply unable to fund flights, it can only cause further heartache to the economy.

wheels_down 10th Apr 2020 07:50


Originally Posted by ABP (Post 10745354)
Repatriation flight. It continues to Paris from Hong Kong.

I think that one today is just a HKG return.

The Paris flight starts in Auckland. The agreement with France was NZ traffic.

Should be a positioning flight to AKL tomorrow for BNE-AKL-HKG-CDG and return empty CDG-HKG, before another rep flight HKG-BNE

Middle.Marker 10th Apr 2020 10:41


Originally Posted by Square Bear (Post 10745484)
@ Pavement

Totally agree with your comments, try and book a QF flight anywhere on the SYD BNE SYD sectors at the moment. Flights a few days in advance are unavailable more than likely due to nil seats available (they were there this morning). Try East Coast to Perth!!

Maybe VA is playing strategically in order to bargain for Govt Funding, but if not and is simply unable to fund flights, it can only cause further heartache to the economy.

More than likely suspended from sale versus sold out

chute packer 10th Apr 2020 13:20


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 10745326)
VA's problem is that any pax needing to travel won't buy a ticket on them in case they shut down quickly which is what has effectively happened hence safer booking on QF which is still carrying a few on selected routes....

Already happened, wife booked and paid for BNE to PER Wednesday 8th evening, rang arvo of the 9th to say cancelled. Others were booking and paying right up to the announcement. Offered credits but they can't even say when the route will resume, and with the requirement to ask for compassionate exemptions into WA you need to stick to your approved dates. We've rebooked for the 24th on Qantas but I have little faith they'll still be operating then.
I really do hope its a ploy to have the govt step in and guarantee a couple of flights a week around the major cities, otherwise a lot of people will be stuck far from home for an extended time. Regional areas in WA are already hurting with limited to no flights now, so facing multi day drives to attend medical care in Perth.

f1yhigh 10th Apr 2020 14:46


Originally Posted by chute packer (Post 10745731)
Already happened, wife booked and paid for BNE to PER Wednesday 8th evening, rang arvo of the 9th to say cancelled. Others were booking and paying right up to the announcement. Offered credits but they can't even say when the route will resume, and with the requirement to ask for compassionate exemptions into WA you need to stick to your approved dates. We've rebooked for the 24th on Qantas but I have little faith they'll still be operating then.
I really do hope its a ploy to have the govt step in and guarantee a couple of flights a week around the major cities, otherwise a lot of people will be stuck far from home for an extended time. Regional areas in WA are already hurting with limited to no flights now, so facing multi day drives to attend medical care in Perth.

Not judging as I don't know your situation, but curious why your wife didn't get back to PER earlier when she still could?

chute packer 11th Apr 2020 03:39

Well it involves her 87 year old grandmother, the wife being her only family she has in the southern hemisphere, a heart attack 4 weeks ago, one she wasn't expected to survive but has, and having just got out of hospital 3 days ago we thought it best she not be forced to go out shopping or to her doctors while changing a significant amount of medication and so on. Once we saw the WA border was going to close we approached our MP here to help with a compassionate exemption to get back into WA which they said would be no problem given the circumstances, so we figured a week or so to get all the above sorted and her set back up in her unit with shopping and prescriptions filled etc to last a month, so date chosen to leave, flight booked and then...........

Now if Qantas withdraw services it's quite possible that by trying to do the right thing by family, she's going to be stuck for some time, luckily my employer is excellent so far, I've spent 2 weeks flexi time getting the kids off to school and starting late, but with it being strongly advised to take the kids out of school I have now had 2 weeks working from home and luckily still have a job when this is all over.

Not every situation is black and white.


Minimbah 11th Apr 2020 04:18

Money in Virgin Travel Bank
 
So, I have money from cancellations due to COVID-19 in the Virgin Travel Bank. If Virgin does not survive am I a secured or unsecured creditor? :hmm:

Dale Hardale 11th Apr 2020 04:36

I think you are unsecured - This type of credit would sit behind any secured creditor including staff.

Lookleft 11th Apr 2020 07:08

It would be just like all the Velocity members.

Oakape 11th Apr 2020 22:21

So they advertise a flight, take your cash & then cancel the flight & only offer a travel credit for a business that may not be around when you are able to use that credit. If they cancel the flight, you should get your cash back.

Typical of of the way things are structured these days. Everything flows towards business & the rest of society just gets screwed over.

Hoosten 11th Apr 2020 23:47


So, I have money from cancellations due to COVID-19 in the Virgin Travel Bank. If Virgin does not survive am I a secured or unsecured creditor?
If you have paid with a credit card and you don't receive the goods, you WILL get your money back.

normanton 12th Apr 2020 08:35

I would recommend getting a refund ASAP from this mob. Call your credit card holder immediately.


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