Temporary work opportunities...help a mate!
 

With the large numbers of employees being stood down across various Australian Airlines I thought it might be helpful to use this network to our advantage.

Whilst some individuals and/or families might be able to weather the financial impact of these stand downs over the coming months, others wont be in the same position.

I encourage everyone to post and share any information they have on temporary work opportunities in their area; labour work, admin, data entry, home rennos, farm work, gardening, child minding, painting - the list is endless. Let's keep our ears to the ground and spread the word. We will get through this temporary phase of uncertainty :)

Airline employees have plenty of historical data on this matter. It was known as the 89 pilot's dispute. Sell the Range Rover, sell the Jet Ski's, cancel the Golf Club membership, this list goes on.
Joyce is asking Woolworth's to assist QF emplyees with part time work; WTF??? what about the crushed GA tourism sector? hundreds of unemployed aviation people .... Irish git!

Here someone has set up a page trying to create something thoughtful and positive. And you come on here 2 seconds later and shut it down with negative remarks. Go away ya clown. We don’t need people like you in the world right now

Wish I had a Range Rover and Jetski to sell......

I have a hatch and 2 plastic moulded kayaks :( Thats after 25 years in the industry. Just been given my standown, spoken with finance companies. No immediate help.

Going to be really hard.

Like him or hate him AJ is at least trying to find paid work for some of his stood down employees in an economic climate where jobs will be scarce. Key point is he doesn’t have any responsibility to take care of anyone laid off in GA tourism. They’ll have to look for other help. Sad but true.

I’d be speaking with them again, everyone I’ve spoke to so far has ended up with something from 3 months or further relief, not sure as to which institutions tho.
All the best.

I know that fruit picking has in the past been done largely by backpackers, many of whom may have returned to their home countries. There are some orchards near me, and I intend to ask the question; should anything arise I'll post it here.

I work in Government. If jobs do come up I will let you know on this forum. This thread is a great idea, let's help each other and support one another. We are all united and in this together.

Ladies and gents there is still work going in India. Get the ball rolling now as it takes up to 3 months to get the paper work sorted and by then India will be allowing expats back in (mid April I believe).
I appreciate contract work isn't everyones cup of tea but it will pay the bills to you are back at work.

At the risk of being ridiculed but in the spirit of the original poster, Telstra is hiring 1,000 new call centre staff to cover for their Phillipines and Indian based centres that have been forced to close. All positions will be advertised on Monday morning at careers.telstra.com.

Good luck everyone with their employment impacted. What a crappy time.

Hes just got millions from the government,why wouldnt he try & make himself look good.
Wake up & realise the leave he is forcing people to take is not costing him anything,its fully funded & meanwhile the government handout is straight into the bank.
A leopard never changes his spots.

This is a brilliant idea especially when you think that most Flight Attendants already will have done a first aidMORE THAN 1,000 LAID-OFF WORKERS AT SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES (SAS) ARE BEING OFFERED FAST-TRACKED HEALTHCARE TRAINING TO HELP SWEDEN’S UNDER PRESSURE HEALTH SYSTEM FIGHT CORONAVIRUS.

Earlier this week, SAS announced it would temporarily lay off as much as 90 per cent of its staff – the equivalent of 10,000 employees – as demand for flights has “more or less disappeared”.

This comes as European countries begin to shut their borders and introduce travel advisory warnings.

But rather than leave these employees in the lurch, Reuters reported, Sweden’s Sophiahemmet University will run a three-day trial for 30 people at the end of March with the hope of extending the course to “hundreds more”.

“There are incredibly competent people who will be able to offer relief to our healthcare immediately after completing the training so that doctors and nurses can to an even greater extent devote themselves to caring for patients,” Johanna Adami, principal at the University, told Reuters.

The Swedish course will reportedly be free of charge, with the companies involved with the training not seeking to make a profit. Funding is provided by the Marianne and Marcus Wallenberg foundation.

According to Reuters, students will be trained in providing information to patients and their families, sterilising beds and equipment and basic administrative duties.

Fredrik Hillelson, CEO at Novare Human Capital, is acting as coordinator and recruiter for the program, and said around 250 out of 1,100 contacted SAS workers have so far said they want to take part in the training.

“It is a small bright light in all the darkness to be able to do something positive, not just talking,” he told Reuters.
“IF WE CAN BE A POSITIVE INITIATIVE THAT GETS OTHER PEOPLE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, I’M VERY HAPPY.”

If you can get a truck license, there is plenty of work in that field at the moment. Getting the licence is not overly onerous.

For the ex Mil guys, there have been large shortages for a lot of flying units. Maybe time to dive back in?

Suggestion. Why don't Cabin Crew who are laid off go and help in the health industry, after all they're qualified in first aid. I know a couple of folk who have just done that in our National Health system and their skills have been welcomed.

someone’s put a petition up here skint about that- I don’t know if they actually asked the cabin crew if they wanted to retrain and go straight into the heart of Covid infection . Not sure I would.

its at times like this I find myself uniquely qualified to do xxxx all but fly aircraft , and there’s not much call for that

Regards post #10 - India:
- SpiceJet let their ~ 15 x 737 Captains go in February, albeit for non virus reasons (MAX/lease renewal issues) BUT appears won't be inviting them back anytime soon;
- GoAir expats just given notice, effective immediately;
- Indigo (largest expat employer) making "dire comments" and reducing flights some 50% or so;
- Air India trying to be sold by the government (yes, yet again! :ugh:), one wonders if they'll maybe just admit defeat and let it fold?
- Vistara (50% SQ)...who knows.

May not hear as much - if anything - about India or South America but their aviation industry is as stuffed as the rest of the world; guess your own recovery prospects/timeline.
Jet Airways went bust, should another go bust then fair to expect no need for expats in the immediate future....if ever again.

Interesting to note on another forum pondering whether AirJapan - generally agreed as a pretty continuously safe and stable gaijin bolthole by the inmates - could be under threat IF downsizing became significant within Japan/ the ANA group.
Just ponderings from some - but not unreasonable, world aviation is being compromised and while Japan like to believe they're special - they're not THAT special! :p

Good luck to all out there, **** times!

Crewmeal . See post # 13

You would be surprised how many people have passed the first aid basic training... start with anyone who’ve got a driving license within last 30 years. Then all maritime staff. Gun license holders. Public train and bus drivers. Security personnel. Wait, how about conscripts? Many others. I am failing to see why CC would have been identified as fast track candidates if it is not another form of state help....

CargoOne. The article refers to “stood down “ employees. The people you refer to who also may have first aid training may well NOT have been stood down but these Flight Attendants have been stood down right now and can be of great assistance.

Sure. But whether they're willing to be is another story.

We can only suggest they think about being a volunteer. It worked in Scandinavia.
I'm sure quite a lot will offer to help.

Wont be selling my rangy !!!!

Not a pilot myself but know several pilots who are currently at risk of losing their jobs.

Apart from specific flying skills, how would you (pilots) offer your services to an employer? If you've had other specific skills (heavy truck licence etc) that makes it different, but if you've 'only' ever been a pilot, what skills make you a desirable employee?

Pilots I know have (usually) been:

• quick to pick up new skills / ideas / procedures etc
• able to work cooperatively / professionally in teams
• able to make decisions fairly quickly and decisively
• have good spatial awareness
• good hand / eye coordination
• adaptable to changing working conditions

I'm thinking here of several pilots I know have these skills / capabilities (and more) but am not sure, if I was in their place, how I could present these skills to a potential non-aviation employer.

There are many web sites (or varying quality) offering suggestions on job applications but I've not found anything useful relating to aviation.

Apart from keeping an eye on here, any suggestions?

thanks
layman

I believe truck jobs are in big demand, bottle shops (Dan Murphy’s) Coles, Woolworths.

Im doing a short course on pool upkeep and installation which takes a month or so. Then I’m full time with a mate who has a business. It’s a massive pay drop, but it keeps us just afloat with wife working.

Stay strong, keep active, try not to fall into a state of ‘I’m doomed and can’t do anything’ attitude- as hard as that may be.
RH

An idea I have been thinking about in my neighbourhood is Uber eat delivery driver. People will be ordering a lot more from home now.

I’ve heard whispers the Royal Flying Doctors are in talks with QF about possibly taking a few (same deal as woolies & Telstra) as they are looking at a busy winter.

Seek.com had cabin crew jobs listed for Hevilift based out of Brisbane. I assume their mining flights and other charter work are not as drastically impacted as other airlines RPT services that cross state borders...

That's a great idea. Maybe in the future in return QF can offer some sort of pathway to RFDS pilots interested in pursing airlines.

I highly doubt it. Given the time and cost to train up a new pilot, and the fact that there’s probably plenty of pilots without jobs now who would like permanent jobs, I would be very surprised if they would be thinking about taking on such temporary pilots.

An aircraft can still only fly so many hours in a day, and if they already have correct numbers then they would be able to fly those maximum hours in a day without the need to bother with temporary pilots.

My son went down to our local Dan Murphys today to hand in his resume hoping for some casual work and had the supervisor apologise and tell him they are under strict instructions to hire QF staff. Cheers

Hardly sounds like an equal opportunity employer. If it's true I'll be shopping elsewhere. I have nothing against QF staff and wish them well but this is appalling.

This predatory corporate behavior has pervaded over many years. A deep sense of entitlement is displayed. There have been a number of deals done by corporate over the years that appear to bypass “normal” process and expectation, this is only to alleviate the corporate burden and preserve the executives position and entitlements. Workers only pick up what they can by whatever means they are presented. (Human nature).

Good luck to everyone under stress. Stay safe and stay connected.

I think its a lousy idea. There are hundreds of well qualified pilots with no jobs to go back to like the QF people will do eventually. And as far as the RFDS being "a pathway" to a job in QF, just imagine how much more the RFDS will be able to exploit people by dangling that carrot.

Pretty amazing (if true) where many of my ex airline mates (myself included) applied several times to the RFDS only to be told we don't hire ex airline guys. Magenta line phobia I guess.

I think the RFDS was only looking at people who were already endorsed and had previously worked for them (very little training needed to get back up to speed) as a short term measure to cover for an expected increase in crew sickness. I don’t think it was only specific to Qantas pilots.

Not necessarily the case - current Mt Isa Senior Base Pilot spent 20 yrs in QF & Air Vanuatu, then a 12 mth break from flying before commencing with RFDS in YBMA.

A good mate went from CX A330 Capt. to PC12 with RFDS in Derby. After a short stint in the bush, became head of C&T for West Ops at Jandakot.

Maybe Central & Sth Eastern sections are different? Best of luck to all - I might be following you!

That might be the key there.

The latest "Job Keeper" scheme announced this afternoon should hopefully take the edge off some of the financial pressure people are under. I'm pleasantly surprised this sheme has appeared so quickly, yet also a little concerned where the government is accesing all this extra money from.

I'm sure it will have a positive impact so get onto your employer and start the process. First payments should be available beginning of May.