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Office Update 13th Sep 2019 01:54

Silk Air to relocate B737 MAX fleet to Alice Springs
 
CASA Australia has given approval for the Silk Air fleet of Boeing 737 MAX to be relocated to dry storage in Alice Springs.
The aircraft are to be flown below 20,000 feet with 1st stage flap deployed to disarm the MCAS system according to Silk Air.
Mildew and potential corrosion in the humid climate at Changi Airport is the reason.

Australopithecus 13th Sep 2019 04:02

Well that should be fun. 7.5 hours, uncontrolled airspace, etc.

neville_nobody 13th Sep 2019 04:17

Why the flaps?? From what I have read if the Autopilot is on MCAS is disabled anyway? :rolleyes:

Australopithecus 13th Sep 2019 04:44


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 10568729)
Why the flaps?? From what I have read if the Autopilot is on MCAS is disabled anyway? :rolleyes:

That's my understanding too. Maybe the regulators are so uneasy that they are demanding “foolproof”?

I guess the Indonesians are going to let them refuel somewhere?

Blueskymine 13th Sep 2019 04:53

They’d be able to do it in one hit empty. Worst case I suppose Broome is within reach.

Bend alot 13th Sep 2019 05:32


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 10568729)
Why the flaps?? From what I have read if the Autopilot is on MCAS is disabled anyway? :rolleyes:

Do not forget the MAX also has Autopilot issues.

TBM-Legend 13th Sep 2019 06:09

Lots of Max's have been moved into storage in USA with no issues..

Bend alot 13th Sep 2019 06:45


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 10568767)
Lots of Max's have been moved into storage in USA with no issues..

ALL with the same ferry restrictions 20K and 1 Flap crew only.

Buster Hyman 13th Sep 2019 08:08


Originally Posted by Bend alot (Post 10568803)
...1 Flap crew only.

Surely they'll just go around in circles...


Bend alot 13th Sep 2019 08:12


Originally Posted by Buster Hyman (Post 10568870)
Surely they'll just go around in circles...

Very "F" Funny but is not actually what happens.

plhought 13th Sep 2019 08:24


Originally Posted by Bend alot (Post 10568803)
ALL with the same ferry restrictions 20K and 1 Flap crew only.

I doubt that.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA2359

Up in Canada we have recently just been ferrying them about for Checks/Storage (some into the United States) without restriction. Only restriction is required crew only.

Also at my outfit a couple check pilots (ACPs we call em) took one out about Quebec (with some Transport Canada staff onboard) without restriction.

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Bend alot 13th Sep 2019 09:47


Originally Posted by plhought (Post 10568885)
I doubt that.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA2359

Up in Canada we have recently just been ferrying them about for Checks/Storage (some into the United States) without restriction. Only restriction is required crew only.

Also at my outfit a couple check pilots (ACPs we call em) took one out about Quebec (with some Transport Canada staff onboard) without restriction.

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Well that just means that other regulators have made airworthiness decisions on the MAX - Less than the FAA.

Fly Aiprt 13th Sep 2019 09:51


Originally Posted by Bend alot (Post 10568749)
Do not forget the MAX also has Autopilot issues.


This shows some regulators are not too confident in the airplane's systems.

1A_Please 13th Sep 2019 10:53

They have all been sitting near the end of 2L at SIN for months. I guess they think they'll be grounded for a few months yet so dry storage in ASP makes more sense.

FlightDetent 13th Sep 2019 17:45


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 10568729)
Why the flaps?? From what I have read if the Autopilot is on MCAS is disabled anyway? :rolleyes:

MCAS only becomes a problem when it goes berserk after AoA bounces off the scale. Incidentally this may trip the AP off and dots get connected.

Buster Hyman 14th Sep 2019 11:44


Originally Posted by Bend alot (Post 10568875)
Very "F" Funny but is not actually what happens.

lol :}

Serious question though, can CASA impose that restriction on the entire operation of the flight? Or, would it be in conjunction with the relevant authorities who control airspace outside of CASA's jurisdiction?


TBM-Legend 14th Sep 2019 11:55

These ferry flights will reflect an approval from a request from SIN with an overflight permit from Indonesia and an entry permit from Australia. Each of those will contain very specific requirements and co-ordinated by the relevant regulators.approvals. It's not a free for all.

Global Aviator 14th Sep 2019 16:13

Fantastic for the Oz boneyard, congrats to whoever came up with that idea.

Routing - WSSS - YBRM - YBAS???

Will it be Silk Air Drivers or Boeing company Pilots???

QuarterInchSocket 14th Sep 2019 20:28


Originally Posted by Fly Aiprt (Post 10568966)
This shows some regulators are not too confident in the airplane's systems.

or they've factored in for the lowest common denominator, an inept pilot.

harrryw 15th Sep 2019 04:32

Maybe they should deliver them to PapuaNewGuinea. Help the cargo cult and if the government takes them over may reduce the hull loss there by having less flights with the same number of people.


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