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Pterois Volitans 4th Sep 2019 11:56

No new LAME positions at QF for the next 6-8 years.
 
Qantas Engineering have just announced they will be NO new LAME positions for AME,s for the next 6-8 years!!! What does that say about career advancement....or lack of. There is now very little point in AME,s spending there own time and money on training if QF is never going to recognise their hard work. It also weakens the ALAEA membership and any ongoing negotiations.

Feel free to comment.
PV

Tom Sawyer 5th Sep 2019 00:15

No new ones even due to natural attrition (leavers, retirement etc.) having to be back filled, or no new ones even to fill those potential vacancies to keep numbers stable?

SuPeRcHaRgEd 5th Sep 2019 01:51

Are Qantas going down the same road as Cobham and others. Reducing the expensive skilled workers and replacing with contractors like Oceania and Aerocare who are responsible for all of the ground handling and push backs etc. They call it "engineering on demand"

Maxmotor 5th Sep 2019 02:00


Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer (Post 10562067)
No new ones even due to natural attrition (leavers, retirement etc.) having to be back filled, or no new ones even to fill those potential vacancies to keep numbers stable?

Replaced by Cat A licences

Buster Hyman 5th Sep 2019 06:05

What could possibly go wrong? :hmm:

gordonfvckingramsay 5th Sep 2019 06:40

QF going down the same road as Cobham? because that’s been a roaring success. The 717 now has a very bad reputation as an unreliable aircraft because it was maintained “on demand” and by the lowest bidder. If QF truly go down this path, they will become a laughing stock.

dragon man 5th Sep 2019 06:43


Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay (Post 10562169)
QF going down the same road as Cobham? because that’s been a roaring success. The 717 now has a very bad reputation as an unreliable aircraft because it was maintained “on demand” and by the lowest bidder. If QF truly go down this path, they will become a laughing stock.

They all ready are .

Bootstrap1 5th Sep 2019 07:28

Just remember managers are short term contractors. I can remember one short rotund manager telling all the AMEs about 11-12 years ago that you will not get trained and you have reached the pinnacle of your career. Then he got booted and albeit a small number of AMEs were trained, but they were trained. And last year one manager with a scottish accent also said that there will be full B1 training for AMEs this year(2019). That obviously hasn't happened. It is hard to know who to believe and when to believe them. Cat A licences are the saviour, obviously.

Going Boeing 6th Sep 2019 12:34

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f1474b886.jpeg
This sums it up well.

Johnny_56 13th Sep 2019 23:26

They don’t train Lames = shortage of qualified guys/girls = reason for imported workforce to ‘fill’ self made shortfall = downward pressure over wages.

Hopefully in 5 or 6 years time some politician will be able to say “why didn’t train engineers 5 or 6 years ago?” - but then that probably wouldn’t be in the national interest...

empire4 15th Sep 2019 09:30


Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay (Post 10562169)
QF going down the same road as Cobham? because that’s been a roaring success. The 717 now has a very bad reputation as an unreliable aircraft because it was maintained “on demand” and by the lowest bidder. If QF truly go down this path, they will become a laughing stock.

Maintenance on demand is not the problem with the B717. Its the muppets at Qlink and the CAMO. There are some really good guys at Cobham 145, as there are at QF. Qlink is NOT QF.

QF is already doing maintenance on demand. The difference you are speaking of is the LAME-less tarmac which QF still do not do. Whats funny is every time I look over and see the good old QF boys doing a push back I have a little chuckle which gets particularly louder when its raining or cold as I'm sipping my coffee in the engineering van. Probably some time this century I hope they realise that chucking chocks, placing cones and telling a pilot brakes off is not being an engineer.

100% agree that Qantas is going to have some tough years ahead, and the shortage of engineers in Oz is only going to get bigger!


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