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Chad Gates 24th Mar 2020 21:56

Singapore banned all transit passengers at very short notice. Even if they stayed on the aircraft. It wasn’t done because of the pilots, I was done because of Singapore.

C441 24th Mar 2020 23:21

"Qantas is now running non-stop Darwin-London Airbus A380 Flights"

And a Sydney - Dresden refurb delivery flight in the last few days.

normanton 24th Mar 2020 23:39

Well they must really believe the 380s will fly again. That's a good sign.

Buckshot 25th Mar 2020 00:00

The ferry to Dresden had a block time of 19 hours 14 minutes. Wonder if they collected any fatigue data for the Sunrise study??

dragon man 25th Mar 2020 00:36


Originally Posted by Buckshot (Post 10727111)
The ferry to Dresden had a block time of 19 hours 14 minutes. Wonder if they collected any fatigue data for the Sunrise study??

So the TOD was over 20 hours , I suppose it was a private flight.

Sparrows. 25th Mar 2020 04:53


Originally Posted by dragon man (Post 10727135)
So the TOD was over 20 hours , I suppose it was a private flight.

TOD was actually 60:30. Flew home Berlin, London, Darwin, Sydney immediately after arriving, no hotel anywhere.

PPRuNeUser0184 26th Mar 2020 20:07


Originally Posted by Sparrows. (Post 10727274)
TOD was actually 60:30. Flew home Berlin, London, Darwin, Sydney immediately after arriving, no hotel anywhere.

hello $$$$

C441 26th Mar 2020 21:39


Originally Posted by KZ Kiwi (Post 10729252)
hello $$$$

All crew were Training or Management Pilots…..no additional* overtime for them.

*Training Pilots already get a pre-determined overtime amount each roster to account for the overtime flying they don't necessarily get when training and checking.

holdingagain 27th Mar 2020 01:20

So I suppose those two 380’s SY LA ( flt 6001/6002) last night were management pilots

C441 27th Mar 2020 03:18


Originally Posted by holdingagain (Post 10729458)
So I suppose those two 380’s SY LA ( flt 6001/6002) last night were management pilots

No they were all line pilots. They have roughly 30-36 hours off then pax back to Sydney on the QF12, a 787, on Friday night. One crew had 15 hours in LAX; probably long enough if you're confined to quarters in the Long Beach hotel.
There's 12 paxing crew on the 12 all heading home after the respective last services.

PPRuNeUser0184 27th Mar 2020 04:07

[QUOTE=C441;10729500]No they were all line pilots. They have roughly 30-36 hours off then pax back to Sydney on the QF12, a 787, on Friday night. One crew had 15 hours in LAX; probably long enough if you're confined to quarters in the Long Beach hotel.
There's 12 paxing crew on the 12 all heading home after the respective last services.[/

Roger copy 10-4

dragon man 30th Mar 2020 01:14

85% yes vote

normanton 30th Mar 2020 01:20

Much higher then the 72% I predicted. I guess at this stage we should be thankful we still have a job.

Chad Gates 30th Mar 2020 01:25

Good news. I think that this project will now, in a post COVID world, be more important that it was going to be prior. I feel for the 747 and A380 pilots, both current and aspiring, as I believe those fleets will most likely be finished much sooner than expected. But let’s move Onward and upward. A new dawn perhaps.

CSTGuy 30th Mar 2020 01:28


Originally Posted by normanton (Post 10732763)
Much higher then the 72% I predicted. I guess at this stage we should be thankful we still have a job.

Now please just go away. Your endless rants about everything to with your future are no longer needed nor required. Turn your computer off, wash your hands and go gloat at yourself looking into the mirror. Your services to the pilot community are no longer required. For everyone’s sake during these tough times just go away now, your job is done.

normanton 30th Mar 2020 01:32


Originally Posted by CSTGuy (Post 10732768)
Now please just go away. Your endless rants about everything to with your future are no longer needed nor required. Turn your computer off, wash your hands and go gloat at yourself looking into the mirror. Your services to the pilot community are no longer required. For everyone’s sake during these tough times just go away now, your job is done.

I'm sorry the reality of the situation didn't agree with you. Not that you contributed anything to the discussion. Have a good day.

MelbourneFlyer 30th Mar 2020 04:13

Now we just have to hope that QF still has an appetite for Sunrise when it comes to buying the A350s!

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...a-long-flights


CSTGuy 30th Mar 2020 07:26


Originally Posted by normanton (Post 10732771)
I'm sorry the reality of the situation didn't agree with you. Not that you contributed anything to the discussion. Have a good day.

I never stated that the reality of the situation didn’t agree with me. Your incessant rants and ramblings are the problem. Now go away please and find some other worthy cause to champion. And good luck with your career and enjoy the view from the cheap seats...

Telfer86 30th Mar 2020 07:56

Guys the high & mighty Project Sunrise was something for pre global pandemic days

Who could forget the epic photos of QF leaders landing in Honolulu with loud shirts after indulging in a beverage or two
, or was this a delivery flight of the "game changer" . What a truly edifying happy snap that one was, how truly iconic it was for a brief moment. All so hard to remember , there was just so much big talk , so much chest beating & the hype (as well the delays in action & decisions) was just endless

Qantas is not going to order any aircraft for years & PS is dead

Stop dream time it won't help you rebuild your careers & for many that will mean finding either (a) a new airline or (b) a new career

Two years from now you will be doing incredibly well if you have two thirds of your international capacity back

V-Jet 30th Mar 2020 10:51


Much higher then the 72% I predicted. I guess at this stage we should be thankful we still have a job.
What time is call tomorrow, Normo?

If you aren’t working this week, you haven’t actually got a job. That’s not even Elaine’s fault, but it is a fact.

You voted for a 20-30% pay cut on the back of the last 30% pay cut.

That generosity of spirit won’t be lost on those that are left when the carcass of the business is resurrected. Qantas has asked for - and got - a 30% pay cut each time they’ve asked. With bailout cash I wonder what they will ask for next time??






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