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Bend alot 29th Jun 2019 23:10

REX
 
Unhappy employee/s (ex)?

17 page bomb shell - Interesting Monday!

hiwaytohell 30th Jun 2019 00:07

Union fingerprints???

https://www.9news.com.au/national/na...4-fda81a067a59

Bend alot 30th Jun 2019 01:02


Originally Posted by hiwaytohell (Post 10505865)

I think I did see a report that the ALAEA submitted it to CAsA, but I doubt it was Sunday morning. A bit of a media leak?

One would hope the ALAEA first approached REX about the concerns.

KRUSTY 34 30th Jun 2019 01:50

Grounding REX is certainly not the answer.

Holding those responsible for creating the culture that has led to this, is.

Shipwreck00 30th Jun 2019 04:41


Originally Posted by hiwaytohell (Post 10505865)

Not the union at all, you clearly dont work at this company, sometimes enough is enough. Perhaps rather than make assumptions think about the Boeing issues, many spoke up, no one listened, including the FAA. Same here, would you be happier to see a SAAB in a smoking heap in the ground. Those who were meant to listen and care wouldnt, including CASA, what are LAMEs meant to do, let people die??

Bend alot 30th Jun 2019 06:53

Behind a paywall.

A 17-page document filed by the Australian Licenced Aircraft Engineers Association to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority alleges a “culture of fear” within Regional Express (REX), claiming management is intimidating maintenance crews out of reporting defects.

https://thewest.com.au/news/nsw/call...d6f907c45e9efb

gordonfvckingramsay 30th Jun 2019 07:21


Holding those responsible for creating the culture that has led to this, is.
That’s the rub isn’t it. At best CASA are at best ignorant and at worst incompetent.

There are a few other maintenance operations that need a good look at for exactly the same culture, but will CASA take any reports seriously?? I doubt it.

LeadSled 30th Jun 2019 08:38

EBA time, or just now the Federal elections are over??
Aeroplanes that old, if you can't find some corrosion, all that proves is you haven't looked hard enough.
Tootle pip!!

PS: If something is serious, as opposed to just bitching, CASA prefer you don't put it in writing, written evidence is so inconvenient.

Horatio Leafblower 30th Jun 2019 08:54

Does everyone forget that REX Group donates hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Nationals every year... and their Chairman is ex Nationals Deputy PM John Sharpe?

Has everyone forgotten that the only "fallout" within the REX Group management from the PelAir Westwind debacle (with similar whiff of managerial/cultural pressure) was that Wicko walked into a job at CASA?

The allegations made of management pressure are entirely consistent with everything we have seen before in the REX Group. Has anyone here ever been in a Management meeting with Lim Kim Hai?

Vref+5 30th Jun 2019 09:45

Nothing will come of it. Sharpe will simply tell Carmody to bury it , just like he did with the PELAIR incident, when SC was deputy director of CASA. Where Sharpe agreed to give CASA a scapegoat in the form of a pilot, this time it will be an engineer

KRUSTY 34 30th Jun 2019 10:15


Originally Posted by Vref+5 (Post 10506122)
Nothing will come of it. Sharpe will simply tell Carmody to bury it , just like he did with the PELAIR incident, when SC was deputy director of CASA. Where Sharpe agreed to give CASA a scapegoat in the form of a pilot, this time it will be an engineer

I wouldn’t count on the scapegoat being one of the rank and file this time. Too many moving parts.

PoppaJo 30th Jun 2019 12:54

Friends in high places usually means avoiding the Tiger treatment.


Saintly 30th Jun 2019 13:01

So worst case scenario what will happen..will the entire REX fleet of Saab's be grounded?

I have family who live in Carnarvon (CVQ) and I was looking at the facebook page called "Carnarvon Notice Board" and someone posted the article about REX (REX flies to CVQ) and now Carnarvon residents will be or are already in a panic with some (I read the comments) people wanting to cancel their airfares.

KRUSTY 34 30th Jun 2019 19:39


Originally Posted by LeadSled (Post 10506071)
EBA time, or just now the Federal elections are over??
Aeroplanes that old, if you can't find some corrosion, all that proves is you haven't looked hard enough.
Tootle pip!!

PS: If something is serious, as opposed to just bitching, CASA prefer you don't put it in writing, written evidence is so inconvenient.

I don’t think the issue is that someone didn’t look hard enough. I think the serious problem is what happened afterwards?

KRUSTY 34 30th Jun 2019 23:17

The plot thickens?
 
1 Attachment(s)
It seems that a few feathers have been ruffled!

Ladloy 30th Jun 2019 23:33


Originally Posted by KRUSTY 34 (Post 10506592)
It seems that a few feathers have been ruffled!

Speaking to engineers yesterday. Although there's always a worry about management (which I believe is in every company), in this case it's an employee who lost their privileges due to negligence and is wanting revenge. In terms of prop corrosion the engineering department as a whole has much more restrictive parameters than that set by GE post prop loss incident.

Slippery_Pete 30th Jun 2019 23:37

Wow, now the accusations are being slung at CASA.

Where’s my popcorn?

gordonfvckingramsay 1st Jul 2019 00:14

Can you elaborate on that Pete? Are you suggesting that CASA have no knowledge of certain maintenance practices?

Slippery_Pete 1st Jul 2019 00:47

Huh?

Read the Rex press release Gordon. From what I can tell, they appear to be blaming CASA for the leak to the media.

gordonfvckingramsay 1st Jul 2019 01:19

Didn’t read that Pete, I thought you were referring to my post (#7). I do blame CASA for the rapidly declining maintenance standards though, they are aware of it and they fail to act.

KRUSTY 34 1st Jul 2019 01:40

The vexing question is, was the corrosion that was found on the propeller (as referenced in the article) reported? If it was, then CASA must have known about it.

If not, then the reasons for it not being written up must be the focus here.


Ladloy 1st Jul 2019 01:44


Originally Posted by KRUSTY 34 (Post 10506633)
The vexing question is, was the corrosion that was found on the propeller (as referenced in the article) reported? If it was, then CASA must have known about it.

If not, then the reasons for it not being written up must be the focus here.


It was and it was inspected

zanthrus 1st Jul 2019 05:46

Krusty’s link in post #15 doesn’t work?

Shipwreck00 1st Jul 2019 08:56


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 10506598)
Speaking to engineers yesterday. Although there's always a worry about management (which I believe is in every company), in this case it's an employee who lost their privileges due to negligence and is wanting revenge. In terms of prop corrosion the engineering department as a whole has much more restrictive parameters than that set by GE post prop loss incident.

Intrigued who you got that from, those i know there personally, who i have spoken to tell me its far more than props and corrosion, and that lots of reports to casa nothing acted on.

KRUSTY 34 1st Jul 2019 09:29


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 10506636)
It was and it was inspected

Good.

Then there shouldn’t be a problem?

Shipwreck00 1st Jul 2019 09:59


Originally Posted by KRUSTY 34 (Post 10506633)
The vexing question is, was the corrosion that was found on the propeller (as referenced in the article) reported? If it was, then CASA must have known about it.

If not, then the reasons for it not being written up must be the focus here.


Now you are getting warmer

Left 270 1st Jul 2019 10:09

Pretty disappointed to see Ben Morgan being interviewed on tv over this. I’m not sure what roll AOPA has in possible maintenance issues with a regional airline, but Ild assume its nothing. Whichever way it falls the last thing anyone needs is running commentary from uninvolved people.

bankrunner 1st Jul 2019 10:26


Originally Posted by Left 270 (Post 10506837)
Pretty disappointed to see Ben Morgan being interviewed on tv over this. I’m not sure what roll AOPA has in possible maintenance issues with a regional airline, but Ild assume its nothing. Whichever way it falls the last thing anyone needs is running commentary from uninvolved people.

Be thankful they didn't interview GT.

Saintly 1st Jul 2019 11:32

I see REX have released a media statement;

MediaReleases - Rex Mobile IBE

KRUSTY 34 1st Jul 2019 20:41


Originally Posted by zanthrus (Post 10506678)
Krusty’s link in post #15 doesn’t work?

Sorry zanthrus, saintly has posted a more user friendly link in post #29.

bankrunner 1st Jul 2019 21:09


Originally Posted by Saintly (Post 10506889)
I see REX have released a media statement;

MediaReleases - Rex Mobile IBE

They named the person in the press release, first time round. Seems they have since (wisely) removed it.

Still, it seems REX management have made angry and vindictive press releases a core part of their brand.

KRUSTY 34 1st Jul 2019 22:34


Originally Posted by bankrunner (Post 10507274)
They named the person in the press release, first time round. Seems they have since (wisely) removed it.

Still, it seems REX management have made angry and vindictive press releases a core part of their brand.

Plenty of emotive hyperbole that’s for sure!

TBM-Legend 1st Jul 2019 23:11


Whichever way it falls the last thing anyone needs is running commentary from uninvolved people.
Mate, the communities served by REX are involved as are pax and all other suppliers to REX. If you want to run a public campaign against REX then expect comments from all quarters. Many AOPA members are REX users.

LeadSled 2nd Jul 2019 07:49

Folks,
I note, from the REX press release, the statement that the leaks were coming from within CASA ---- despite the formal letter from CASA to REX.
Where have I (we) seen this before --- how to generate a CASA intervention?
I watch with interest.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Good on you, Ben.

V1 rotated 3rd Jul 2019 10:11

Casa making a visit
 

KRUSTY 34 3rd Jul 2019 10:37


Originally Posted by V1 rotated (Post 10508533)

Behind a pay wall. Is there any depth to the article?

Arthur D 3rd Jul 2019 12:21

V1 - not sure if you’re intention is to spruik for Rupert, but that’s where your post landed.

Given that many, including myself, would never knowingly give his biased, toxic empire a single cent, in future please consider paywalls

PoppaJo 3rd Jul 2019 13:29

The company largely appears to be on the defence here.

Tiger did the same. The regulator was tipped off, the pommy management said you have all lost the plot, nothing to see here. I’ll never forget when they then threatened CASA with court action over the temporary cancellation of the AOC. They claimed exactly as REX has above, we are high standard law abiding citizens. There was so many problems inside I think I nearly fell over when I heard this....as CASA saw when they opened the books.

Blitzkrieger 3rd Jul 2019 23:04

How eerily similar this is to our friends at the worlds safest airline poppa jo.

Saintly 4th Jul 2019 00:44

So do people think that there really is a problem in terms of safety with their fleet?

I know people who are in a panic and are not keen to fly REX anymore.


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