Jetstar to Seoul
 

No surprises there, when ticket prices are $180 MEL-SIN on Scoot. I heard their SO's on the 787 earn less than the people who work on the catering trucks.

Yes, JQ only do MEL- SIN 2 times a week, but prior to around Oct 2017 it was 6 times a week.

It was always full, in both classes. As the route structure to LHR was changed, QF stepped in with a daily 380 MEL-SIN, and JQ went to 2 times a week.

The same thing happened with MEL-NRT. JQ fly the new/marginal routes, if the business case stacks up (i.e. good premium load projection), QF take it over.

A nice way to limit the losses on new routes, get slots and establish a presence in the new destination with code share arrangements in the destination country.

SQ do the same with SCOOT.

He gave up on the fantasy and was shown the door.

It is incredibly difficult to stretch a stage length without destroying whatever cost advantage Low Far Airlines have.
Whilst demand can be induced at low price points the model cost gets distorted outside given stage lengths for passenger amenity, like blankets, food and galleys. That passenger amenity costs money means that density is sacrificed. High density and high load factors are needed to squeeze a dollar.
Further crews need overnights, they need hotels, thus utilisation declines eroding whatever margin was apparent.
Combine it all with very demand elastic customers and it is at best a very finely balanced proposition.
Fort Fumble had in their IR wet-dream the fantasy that passengers would simply transfer from QF to JQ. Unfortunately, they failed to model and anticipate competitor response.
When your competitor can offer product on a full service airline for a price you change for low fare, who wins?
When other competitors can use their robust mainline carrier to supplement a loss leading low fare airline, who wins?

Jetstar may well have a role, stimulating leisure travel and an industrial wedge, but long haul operations isn't it.

Will that be the time that they segment out JQ International to show the incredible profit (Profit not derived from leasing aircraft) ?

How many people can JQ push through a 787 type rating at a time? 6 or 8?

I saw a J* crew overnighting in Bali in a Holiday Inn Express and wouldn't be surprised if the cabin crew were sharing rooms. QF mainline would turn their noses up at anything below Crowne Plaza level and individual rooms for everyone. In some markets ticket price is the only thing.

I'm simply stating what I saw when I arrived, J* crew checking out as I was checking in. I was on holiday so the cost was out of my own pocket hence HI Express rather than 5*. Most of the cabin crew were Asian, I think the boss was Australian. Cabin crew sharing rooms is very common in this part of the world especially with low cost airlines. Bogans demand cheap tickets and costs need to be cut where ever they can. For Australians, Bali is a lower end leisure destination which is relatively close and therefore won't support a premium airline. For Europeans and Americans it's a luxury destination and can easily attract premium passengers willing to pay a bit more for a comfortable 20 hour journey.

Similarly, for Australians Spain is exotic whereas for Brits it's low end package deals.

I didn't see any of their crews in the Holiday Inn Express, would they be in 4/5* hotels instead ? Why not put the J* crew up in the same hotel as QF then ?

Just out of curiosity, which member states (countries of operation) are 'double bunking' crew? (our bolding)

Just have to clarify something
 

JQ cabin crew do not share hotel rooms whether they are Aus based or SIN/BKK/HKT based. On a side note Jetstar Pacific cabin crew do share hotel rooms when the gender numbers are even.

JQ cabin crew in Bali either stay at the Holiday Inn or Holiday Inn Express subject to occupancy levels. Anecdotally the cabin crew prefer the express as it is newer and cleaner. JQ pilots stay at the Inn. Along with Virgin crew and the occasional Qantas crew.

As for Bali not supporting premium airlines, I beg to differ given a Qantas A330 from SYD, a 737 from MEL, multiple Virgin 737s and the business (premium economy) cabins on four daily JQ 787s being mostly full on a daily basis.

Cheers

Jetstar cabin crew, no matter where they are based, do NOT share rooms. They ALL get their own room.

Having stayed in both....The Holiday Inn as well as the Holiday Inn Express in Kuta are both perfectly adequate hotels for any business traveller on a short Balinese layover.

I am the last person to defend sub-par hotel standards....however, to suggest otherwise in this case is simply a silver-spoon, princess-like attitude that does not reflect the fiscal necessity of sourcing satisfactory accommodation when running a cost-effective business.

But...back to Seoul...good to see new markets are being tested.

I hear there is another new JQ destination to be announced before the end of the year.

PG

The thread is about JQ to Seoul.

Thats the VH registered B787 Australian operation. (Not Jetstar Asia, Pacific or Japan)

None of those flight attendants, whether they are Aussie-based, or BKK or HKT or SIN based share rooms.

PG

As an aside, there probably won't be many flight attendants overnighting in DPS at all very soon when the Indonesian nationals start crewing the DPS base!

Delta and Finnair are using those foreign crews for language reasons. I fly Miami to Washington do I get a Korean crew? You certainly do not.

Melbourne to Hawaii for what reasons other than slave labour do you get a Thai based crew?

Jetstar and Norwegian are the only two I’ve seen exploiting their own employees on such a large scale.