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Originally Posted by krismiler
(Post 10464995)
I was on holiday so the cost was out of my own pocket hence HI Express rather than 5*.
Bogans demand cheap tickets and costs need to be cut where ever they can. For Australians, Bali is a lower end leisure destination which is relatively close and therefore won't support a premium airline. When they spend $199 on a flight to Bali they’re a low end, cheap ticket demanding bogan. When you spend a princely $39 a night on a hotel you’re a...premium airline supporter? Pot calling the kettle miserly. You also better let the bean counters at Qantas and Virgin know that Bali can’t support “premium” airlines. An upgauged A330 out of Sydney and 737 out of Melbourne. Virgin even do multiple a day some days. |
Virgin has the most frequency out of all carriers BNE and SYD-DPS. |
An upgauged A330 out of Sydney and 737 out of Melbourne. Virgin even do multiple a day some days. |
Originally Posted by krismiler
(Post 10465160)
I didn't see any of their crews in the Holiday Inn Express, would they be in 4/5* hotels instead ? Why not put the J* crew up in the same hotel as QF then ?
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Originally Posted by krismiler
(Post 10464995)
I'm simply stating what I saw when I arrived, J* crew checking out as I was checking in. I was on holiday so the cost was out of my own pocket hence HI Express rather than 5*. Most of the cabin crew were Asian, I think the boss was Australian. Cabin crew sharing rooms is very common in this part of the world especially with low cost airlines. Bogans demand cheap tickets and costs need to be cut where ever they can. For Australians, Bali is a lower end leisure destination which is relatively close and therefore won't support a premium airline. For Europeans and Americans it's a luxury destination and can easily attract premium passengers willing to pay a bit more for a comfortable 20 hour journey.
Similarly, for Australians Spain is exotic whereas for Brits it's low end package deals. |
Virgin, QF, Tiger, state single occupancy hotel accommodation in their respective Cabin Crew EBA’s. Jetstar does not. Jetstar Asian based 787 crews work for subsidiary companies that are ‘based’ in Thailand/Indonesia, on local terms and conditions I might add. I’ll leave what that entails to your imagination. |
Just have to clarify something
JQ cabin crew do not share hotel rooms whether they are Aus based or SIN/BKK/HKT based. On a side note Jetstar Pacific cabin crew do share hotel rooms when the gender numbers are even.
JQ cabin crew in Bali either stay at the Holiday Inn or Holiday Inn Express subject to occupancy levels. Anecdotally the cabin crew prefer the express as it is newer and cleaner. JQ pilots stay at the Inn. Along with Virgin crew and the occasional Qantas crew. As for Bali not supporting premium airlines, I beg to differ given a Qantas A330 from SYD, a 737 from MEL, multiple Virgin 737s and the business (premium economy) cabins on four daily JQ 787s being mostly full on a daily basis. Cheers |
Jetstar cabin crew, no matter where they are based, do NOT share rooms. They ALL get their own room.
Having stayed in both....The Holiday Inn as well as the Holiday Inn Express in Kuta are both perfectly adequate hotels for any business traveller on a short Balinese layover. I am the last person to defend sub-par hotel standards....however, to suggest otherwise in this case is simply a silver-spoon, princess-like attitude that does not reflect the fiscal necessity of sourcing satisfactory accommodation when running a cost-effective business. But...back to Seoul...good to see new markets are being tested. I hear there is another new JQ destination to be announced before the end of the year. PG |
New destinations being announced towards the end of the year would make sense with the 3 788 airframes being freed up from the Bali runs with the arrival of the A321LRs from mid 2020. Gotta love the qantas boys spreading rumours of the JQ 787s being sent to qantas. Meanwhile, in the real world, JQ are incrementally growing their international operation and launching new routes. Amazing how rumours gather momentum, but after all that is the name of the website! |
Originally Posted by Popgun
(Post 10465492)
Jetstar cabin crew, no matter where they are based, do NOT share rooms. They ALL get their own room.
PG |
The thread is about JQ to Seoul.
Thats the VH registered B787 Australian operation. (Not Jetstar Asia, Pacific or Japan) None of those flight attendants, whether they are Aussie-based, or BKK or HKT or SIN based share rooms. PG As an aside, there probably won't be many flight attendants overnighting in DPS at all very soon when the Indonesian nationals start crewing the DPS base! |
I assume the plan in the medium term is all narrow/wide body flights out of DPS to be operated by crew under some Indonesian third party subsidiary. Can they operate onward domestic travel also? I am aware of this occurring last year and some pilots raised the issue with the unions. |
Originally Posted by Popgun
(Post 10466274)
None of those flight attendants, whether they are Aussie-based, or BKK or HKT or SIN based share rooms.
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Originally Posted by Sparrows.
(Post 10466582)
Aussie based crew on their initial ground school have to share rooms. |
Originally Posted by dragon man
(Post 10466606)
With no meal allowances either. |
Yes there was a big hoo haa about it in the media a while ago but quiet it went. No doubt more Korean cc will be employed, home base? Then tag flights through AUS? Great for JQ destinations. |
So you fly Melbourne to Hawaii what crew do you get? Siberian? Eskimo’s? |
Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 10466881)
So you fly Melbourne to Hawaii what crew do you get? Siberian? Eskimo’s? I shall start with a few of the small ones shall I? Finnair Delta Hang on think you get the point. JQ Int certainly does it with SIN, THAI, JAP, crew etc. So no it would not surprise me to see more Korean cabin crew. |
Delta and Finnair are using those foreign crews for language reasons. I fly Miami to Washington do I get a Korean crew? You certainly do not.
Melbourne to Hawaii for what reasons other than slave labour do you get a Thai based crew? Jetstar and Norwegian are the only two I’ve seen exploiting their own employees on such a large scale. |
I’ll speak as a member of the general public. If I get a cheap airfare, I really don’t care where they come from |
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