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plainmaker 11th Apr 2019 00:49

Qantas International Head resigns
 
https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...11-p51d3a.html

Seems a very hurried departure - two weeks including Easter.

Plainmaker

Freehills 11th Apr 2019 01:52

QF management has been a dog eat dog atmosphere for some time now.

crosscutter 11th Apr 2019 01:59


Originally Posted by Freehills (Post 10444693)
QF management has been a dog eat dog atmosphere for some time now.

Isn't that corporate Australia Modus Operandi?

itsnotthatbloodyhard 11th Apr 2019 02:23


Originally Posted by crosscutter (Post 10444697)
Isn't that corporate Australia Modus Operandi?

Yes, but Alan really doesn’t like it when people don’t agree with Alan.

mohikan 11th Apr 2019 02:39

Apparently "Ally" recently presented to Alan and the EXCO detailed analysis of the loss of revenue caused of loss of seats on specific routes after the retirement of the 747 and replacement by 787 capacity.

She specifically highlighted JNB and HND. This presentation was based on work completed by the former head of strategy who was punted under similar circumstances - that is, he was in favour of expanding the Qantas mainline business. As long time followers / sufferers of QF know - having such a position inside the business is tantamount to corporate suicide under the current senior leadership.

Anyhow the overall theme of Ally's proposal was that Qantas needs to order more 787s and go firm or otherwise on the A350-1000 for project sunrise in order to remain competitive and to not give away any more market share to competitors.

This (unfortunately for Ally) goes against Alans overall scheme to 'gaslight' Qantas mainline capacity whilst still quietly growing JQ international and the JQ asian businesses.

As with what happened to Boston Bruce, she has been immediately rissholed from the company. She is already on 'gardening leave' and had her passes and access taken from her on the day she was fired by Alan.

777Nine 11th Apr 2019 02:39


Originally Posted by itsnotthatbloodyhard (Post 10444704)


Yes, but Alan really doesn’t like it when people don’t agree with Alan.

Most people with egos don't like when you don't agree with them.

hotnhigh 11th Apr 2019 05:29

Ali.... meet Simon, Lyell, and Jane. There are a few others in the corner you might remember.

dragon man 11th Apr 2019 05:31


Originally Posted by mohikan (Post 10444712)
Apparently "Ally" recently presented to Alan and the EXCO detailed analysis of the loss of revenue caused of loss of seats on specific routes after the retirement of the 747 and replacement by 787 capacity.

She specifically highlighted JNB and HND. This presentation was based on work completed by the former head of strategy who was punted under similar circumstances - that is, he was in favour of expanding the Qantas mainline business. As long time followers / sufferers of QF know - having such a position inside the business is tantamount to corporate suicide under the current senior leadership.

Anyhow the overall theme of Ally's proposal was that Qantas needs to order more 787s and go firm or otherwise on the A350-1000 for project sunrise in order to remain competitive and to not give away any more market share to competitors.

This (unfortunately for Ally) goes against Alans overall scheme to 'gaslight' Qantas mainline capacity whilst still quietly growing JQ international and the JQ asian businesses.

As with what happened to Boston Bruce, she has been immediately rissholed from the company. She is already on 'gardening leave' and had her passes and access taken from her on the day she was fired by Alan.

There is more to it than this and I won’t allude any further on here.

ExtraShot 11th Apr 2019 05:43


Originally Posted by dragon man (Post 10444775)


There is more to it than this and I won’t allude any further on here.


I should hope there’s more to it. It’d be utterly heartbreaking to hear that people pushing for an expansion of mainline are being shown the door because it doesn’t align with the rest of the exec’s agenda.

ruprecht 11th Apr 2019 05:53


Originally Posted by dragon man (Post 10444775)


There is more to it than this and I won’t allude any further on here.

Then why should we believe you?

Rated De 11th Apr 2019 05:54

It would appear allegedly telling the truth in a time of company wide deceit, is indeed a revolutionary act.

Mr Goyder ought be asking questions.

dragon man 11th Apr 2019 05:57


Originally Posted by ruprecht (Post 10444785)
Then why should we believe you?

Dont , it’s no skin off my nose.

hotnhigh 11th Apr 2019 06:07


Originally Posted by Rated De (Post 10444787)
It would appear allegedly telling the truth in a time of company wide deceit, is indeed a revolutionary act.

Mr Goyder ought be asking questions.

If so, what's the difference to previous cases?
Nothing will change. As per a previous posters response, it will be written off as "something that occurs in the business world all the time".

George Glass 11th Apr 2019 06:19

Come on Dragon........ You cant leave everybody hanging like that. Spill it.

dragon man 11th Apr 2019 06:22


Originally Posted by George Glass (Post 10444798)
Come on Dragon........ You cant leave everybody hanging like that. Spill it.

I would love to but won’t do it here.

ruprecht 11th Apr 2019 06:22

I know WAY more than dragon man.

I'm not telling either.

PDR1 11th Apr 2019 08:43

I know WAY less than either of 'em, but I'll only reveal how little I know after dinner and a movie.

PDR

donpizmeov 11th Apr 2019 09:26


Originally Posted by PDR1 (Post 10444910)
I know WAY less than either of 'em, but I'll only reveal how little I know after dinner and a movie.

PDR

You have changed PDR . Ruprecht will spill the beans after you buy him a cocktail. He will never change :}

ruprecht 11th Apr 2019 09:34


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 10444940)
Ruprecht will spill the beans after you buy him a cocktail. He will never change :}

A cocktail...!?

How dare you!

It’d take at least 2, preferably with an umbrella...:)



bazza stub 11th Apr 2019 10:23

Dragon man won’t talk means it’s open season on wild rumours! Game on 😛

Seriously, I hope this isn’t a public execution because someone spoke the truth to her fearless leaders.

PPRuNeUser0198 11th Apr 2019 12:05

She has removed her profile from LinkedIn too...

Arthur D 11th Apr 2019 12:29

Sooner or later the chickens come home to roost.

There are certain leaders at QF who should take this as an instructive lesson, even including those senior Captains who consider their abhorrent behaviour ‘normal’.

zanthrus 11th Apr 2019 13:06

Someone please take out Alan Joyce? He is a pox on aviation in this country.

Bad Adventures 11th Apr 2019 23:00

Lol, a lot of dick measuring on here about what people supposedly know. Probably 0 facts.

ruprecht 12th Apr 2019 00:14


Originally Posted by Bad Adventures (Post 10445572)
Lol, a lot of dick measuring on here about what people supposedly know. Probably 0 facts.

Just for the record, and also according to my kids, I don’t actually know anything... :}

knobbycobby 12th Apr 2019 01:17

I don’t think this is correct.
The 787 doesn’t fly to either HND or JNB for one. So no issues yet bar LHR that now only has one 787 and an one A380.
Numerous documents provided to the ASX clearly show the 787 as a 747 replacement and one for one.
At a recent dial in Andrew David said that at best they might order another two 787s.
Yes two. But Qantas are being sued by Perth airport as they won’t pay their bill. So no single PER to One European destination and no extra US destination as the ACCC hasn’t agreed to the QF/AA enhanced codeshare.
Pilots desperately want to believe expansion but the long entrenched reality is that its shrunk to the size it is. Qantas might see a minor increase at best. Joyce and co happy to limit fleet renewal and spend the money on share buybacks and increasing the share price short term and thus their bonuses tied to the share price. If I could make close to 90 million in bonuses/pay/options over the last 10 years I’d probably do the same.
The 747s will slowly be replaced one for one by the 787s. That’s why BNE-LAX-JFK now a 787 not a 747. etc etc.
AD did say that premium yields were off the charts and loads across all LH types very good as capacity was restricted.
Good news is Qantas can’t get smaller. And as global pilot pay rises and Qantas piss of their current ones with **** rostering and insulting EAs, unexpected retirements remain on the increase.
doubt that AW left because she was championing Qantas. Meet the Kumars Might even stay as International head.
Gareth will be the front runner for next CEO and he’s now in Jetstar before he’ll replace Joyce whenever it is he decides he’ll go.
I don’t think it will be soon.


crosscutter 12th Apr 2019 01:43

I agree.

Meanwhile this old chestnut must only be days away... “due to not knowing jack about where pilots are going to move, especially from the 747, in consultation with AIPA, 🙄 we have decided to delay the 2019/20 training vacancy FSO and subsequent allocation until the flying plan has been confirmed.”

the EA means nothing you see

Pearly White 12th Apr 2019 01:48


Originally Posted by knobbycobby (Post 10445618)
I don’t think this is correct.
The 787 doesn’t fly to either HND or JNB for one. So no issues yet bar LHR that now only has one 787 and an one A380.
Numerous documents provided to the ASX clearly show the 787 as a 747 replacement and one for one.
At a recent dial in Andrew David said that at best they might order another two 787s.
Yes two. But Qantas are being sued by Perth airport as they won’t pay their bill. So no single PER to One European destination and no extra US destination as the ACCC hasn’t agreed to the QF/AA enhanced codeshare.
Pilots desperately want to believe expansion but the long entrenched reality is that its shrunk to the size it is. Qantas might see a minor increase at best. Joyce and co happy to limit fleet renewal and spend the money on share buybacks and increasing the share price short term and thus their bonuses tied to the share price. If I could make close to 90 million in bonuses/pay/options over the last 10 years I’d probably do the same.
The 747s will slowly be replaced one for one by the 787s. That’s why BNE-LAX-JFK now a 787 not a 747. etc etc.
AD did say that premium yields were off the charts and loads across all LH types very good as capacity was restricted.
Good news is Qantas can’t get smaller. And as global pilot pay rises and Qantas piss of their current ones with **** rostering and insulting EAs, unexpected retirements remain on the increase.
doubt that AW left because she was championing Qantas. Meet the Kumars Might even stay as International head.
Gareth will be the front runner for next CEO and he’s now in Jetstar before he’ll replace Joyce whenever it is he decides he’ll go.
I don’t think it will be soon.


I don't think anyone said 787s fly to HND or JNB at the moment. Those markets are currently served by 744. She's apparently been fired for pointing out you get less seats SYD-JNB and SYD-HND if you replace a 744 with a 787. Less seats = less $$$ apparently.

Tuner 2 12th Apr 2019 01:54


Originally Posted by crosscutter (Post 10445624)
we have decided to delay the 2019/20 training vacancy FSO and subsequent allocation until the flying plan has been confirmed.”

the EA means nothing you see

Willing to apologise next week if you’re wrong on that?

crosscutter 12th Apr 2019 01:56


Originally Posted by Tuner 2 (Post 10445630)


Prepared to apologise next week if you’re wrong on that?

when the allocation is awarded on time...of course

FightDeck 12th Apr 2019 10:33

You suggesting they are holding off the 787 SYD base slots for the 747 SYD redeployment?
6 747 to go and 6 787 to arrive. Qantas be within their rights to reserve every SYD slot on 787 as redeployment slots for 747 pilots.
Yes the timing could be better however no one plans Aircraft replacements as well as Qantas.
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At least all the retirements will help them.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/b...rcraft-2017-12


cattletruck 12th Apr 2019 10:47

I wish someone would spill the beans why she walked.
I reckon it has nothing to do with gate slots or aircraft choices.

wheels_down 12th Apr 2019 11:36

There are no words

Qantas Boss sacked after throwing Pie at Alan Joyce during heated meeting

PPRuNeUser0198 12th Apr 2019 12:26

These level roles would have a min six months notice period. The fact that Alison is leaving so quickly means something has seriously happened...

1a sound asleep 12th Apr 2019 14:14

She didnt quit as such. Bags were packed and escorted out of the building. Gone already

Servo 13th Apr 2019 01:42


Originally Posted by wheels_down (Post 10445929)

Son of a Bitch

What The 13th Apr 2019 02:10

Red hot rumour is that Alan is next and Andrew David not far behind.
Clearing the decks for Gareth.

rep 13th Apr 2019 02:12


Originally Posted by wheels_down (Post 10445929)

I clicked on it 10 times, and you got me every time.

blow.n.gasket 13th Apr 2019 02:34


Originally Posted by What The (Post 10446407)
Red hot rumour is that Alan is next and Andrew David not far behind.
Clearing the decks for Gareth.


A case of “ The Queen is dead , long live the King ? “ ???

Qantas 787 13th Apr 2019 03:59


Originally Posted by What The (Post 10446407)
Red hot rumour is that Alan is next and Andrew David not far behind.
Clearing the decks for Gareth.

I don't believe it but would love it to be true. Gareth is the only one I have time for and actually understands what the airline needs

On AW, I was impressed by her honesty and wouldn't give you a scripted answer. Clearly honesty hurts.


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