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Originally Posted by imperial shifter
(Post 10210886)
How about ones with two engines?
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Originally Posted by imperial shifter
(Post 10210925)
Ha. Nice shot. As I said, play the ball and not the man.
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If the loss rate of the F35 due to having one engine is considered OK by the powers that be then that's that. Clearly the "powers that be" do consider it "OK". How many Hawk 127s have the RAAF lost due to FOD/Bird Ingestion - leading to engine failure? How many Macchis did they lose due to such events? You're making it hard to play the ball, as I can't see past the goose running around on the footy field flapping his arms. I'll add this - I have only a basic knowledge of the F35 programme, and I have my doubts that the F35 represents good value given the HORRENDOUS cost blowouts and the HUGE delays - but my doubts have nothing to do with the fact it only has one donk... |
The Aussie defense forces have operated A4 Skyhawks and Mirage IIIs before..there is a single engine precedent (also Vampires and Sabres..etc etc) |
I think someone on the F-35 thread in MILITARY on here said the US armed forces determined they couldn't afford to develop a new twin and buy enough of them to make it worth while....... especially when you factored in stealth . It woul d have cost more than an F-22
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The F35, due to its stealth characteristics, won't have to operate close to the ground very often and thus won't be exposed to birdstrikes to the same degree as non steath fighter/attack aircraft. This significantly reduces the risk associated with operating a single engine fighter. On the tanker issue, there is no doubt that the tankers will be targeted so, it would not surprise me if the RAAF follows the development of stealthy UAV tankers currently being designed to operate from US Navy carriers. These UAV tankers could eventually refuel from the larger, manned tankers and then sent into higher risk areas in support of F35 missions. |
How many F-35's have been lost todate with engine/bird issues? A. Zero, including prototypes, which is unheard of in previous fighter types. Speaking of twin engine safety, the RAAF EA-18G Growler was a write-off at Red Flag recently, due to a catastrophic engine failure on take-off that destroyed the aircraft. Cat 5 and it was a twin engined aircraft...
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Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight
(Post 10206417)
Sounds legit...
(PS. I don't disagree that these things are hideously expensive.) |
Originally Posted by imperial shifter
(Post 10210845)
How about playing the ball and not the man. The Mig 29 has an intake setup where when on the ground the "flight" intakes are blocked and inlets from above (put very simply!) are open to mitigate against FOD when taxiing on dodgy soviet strips. What defence / capability to withstand does the F35 have against bird ingestion or FOD? Serious question!
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MK1 - I was being sarcastic (sorry, should have made it more obvious)
To me, it read along the lines of "my best mate's, neighbour's plumber reckons..." |
Originally Posted by Going Boeing
(Post 10211575)
The F35, due to its stealth characteristics, won't have to operate close to the ground very often and thus won't be exposed to birdstrikes to the same degree as non steath fighter/attack aircraft. This significantly reduces the risk associated with operating a single engine fighter..
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C A S in a F35 would probably involve throwing smarter bombs from a greater height & distance. Gunnery would be an option that would be used less than with current fighters. |
Originally Posted by Going Boeing
(Post 10212189)
Gunnery would be an option that would be used less than with current fighters. |
My perfed option wuz alwayz a six sec bust on the cannons up the pipe...... the dirty commies never new what hit em�� |
6 seconds would be just about the whole drum wouldn’t it?? |
The Mirage dates back to 1956... things have moved on a bit since then..........
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